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Moton extension. 2 more years, $44M

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1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

Landing Parsons would require multiple 1st rounders. Under no circumstance should this franchise think for one second that we should trade a single 1st rounder given where we’re at right now

I disagree. Parsons is generational, and the opportunity to get Parsons, regardless of where we are, or people may think that we are, if you can make it work, you grab him. 

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15 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

LOLOLOLOLOL

 

You think a team is going to give him more then a 40million deal after this season no matter how well he played?  Goddamn.  You would think, after seeing Brady and others test the fa market only to come crawling back for minimum deals that Morgan simply would have waited and rolled the dice on seeing what a 33 year old RT with bum knees would sign for with the team that drafted him.  

Yes, 100%.  You are a moron and I'm sorry that you are blind to it.

Lane Johnson got $25M APY at age 33 (2 years older than Moton)
Trent Williams restructured his deal at age 33 and is still elite

Ronnie Stanley, DJ Humphries, Laremy Tunsil.  

You're comparing Brady to Moton like it's equal. Really?

And quit lying.  Moton just turned 31.  He'll turn 33 two years from now at the start of the 2027-28 season.

This was a smart and fair deal for both sides and is exactly the kind of move good GM's make.  

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2 minutes ago, TD alt said:

I disagree. Parsons is generational, and the opportunity to get Parsons, regardless of where we are, or people may think that we are, if you can make it work, you grab him. 

JJ Watt was generational and the Texans never did anything with him during his prime because they never put an offense on the other side of the ball.

Talking about trading multiple 1sts and more for a pass rusher then giving him the biggest contract for a defender in NFL history when we still aren't sure we have the solution at QB is about the craziest thing I've ever heard pitched.

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2 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

Yes, 100%.  You are a moron and I'm sorry that you are blind to it.

Lane Johnson got $25M APY at age 33 (2 years older than Moton)
Trent Williams restructured his deal at age 33 and is still elite

Ronnie Stanley, DJ Humphries, Laremy Tunsil.  

You're comparing Brady to Moton like it's equal. Really?

And quit lying.  Moton just turned 31.  He'll turn 33 two years from now at the start of the 2027-28 season.

This was a smart and fair deal for both sides and is exactly the kind of move good GM's make.  

Giving him the deal isn't the crazy part. It's the fact that it's 93% guaranteed and that this year was added into that amount with a salary conversion to SB. (where he had none guaranteed previously this year) 

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8 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Players, GMs and coaches? He was hiring from the same pool as everyone else. When he hired Rhule, Rhule was a hot name. Where he made his error was giving Rhule all that control (and a long contract, but Tepper had to pay that). Hiring the hot name from college and the coach and GM pool is not indicative of any genius, it's just business as usual as far as I'm concerned. I mean, if he had come in and hired Ben Johnson in the beginning, for example, and Johnson became a wunderkind, then we could say, "that was  genius." Moreover, I think it's worth noting that Tepper was a new (majority) owner and still trying to figure things out. He learned relatively quickly that it wasn't as easy as he thought. Moreover, I think it's somewhat safe to assume that Morgan wasn't the first or second choice, and we already know that Canales wasn't. Bryce Young was our first choice, but he was covered by several teams, including the Texans, so, like I said, "business as usual, nothing genius."

Notice that most of those wunderkind HC's have actively avoided him.

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Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

no non qb is worth multiple draft picks including 2 firsts, nobody is that detrimental on the football field

Many people disagree. Ask any NFL type if Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White or Julius Peppers or Bruce Smith  were worth 2 firsts when they were in their prime.  

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6 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

Ok, Jerry Jr.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45942521/dallas-cowboys-contract-mistakes-micah-parsons-dak-prescott-ceedee-lamb-cost-jerry-jones-millions

The riskiest decision we could make right now is giving another massive wad of guaranteed money to an over 30 OT who is battling chronic knee issues who is still under contract this year.

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7 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Many people disagree. Ask any NFL type if Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White or Julius Peppers or Bruce Smith  were worth 2 firsts when they were in their prime.  

Ask them if they're worth two 1sts when you might not have a QB. 

Give them the full picture. Three years ago we traded two 1sts and more for a QB and we're unsure if he's the solution so should we now turn around and do the same for an elite pass rusher? I don't think you'd find anyone who would tell you that's smart roster management.

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

JJ Watt was generational and the Texans never did anything with him during his prime because they never put an offense on the other side of the ball.

Talking about trading multiple 1sts and more for a pass rusher then giving him the biggest contract for a defender in NFL history when we still aren't sure we have the solution at QB is about the craziest thing I've ever heard pitched.

First of all, we have an offense. Any decent QB can thrive with our O-line, WRs and RBs. Secondly, you don't get better on offense by trading away one of the top five receivers in the league. Thirdly, their FO was crap. Lastly, we're not going about business in a way that's assuming Bryce Young isn't the answer. 

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