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Moton extension. 2 more years, $44M

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20 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

the dude will be 32 next year and is currently being load managed, what fuging leverage does he have?  You are banking on him having some all pro type season and that is frankly not in his dna.  He is a good RT.  Period end of story.  So far for the excuses for this we have:  1. He deserves this  2. This frees up space to sign or trade for God knows who 3. We are getting a deal because he is going to ball out this year and hold us over the barrel

 

Goddamn people just Goddamn

In your opinion.

What do you think Moton's true value in contract, dollars and guarantees?

If we had not extended him, what is your plan for RT in 27 and 28?

How important are good offensive linemen for our current offense?

How much value do you put on protecting Bryce at this stage of his career?

How difficult in general do you think finding above average tackles in the NFL is?

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11 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

In your opinion.

What do you think Moton's true value in contract, dollars and guarantees?

If we had not extended him, what is your plan for RT in 27 and 28?

How important are good offensive linemen for our current offense?

How much value do you put on protecting Bryce at this stage of his career?

How difficult in general do you think finding above average tackles in the NFL is?

If his knees continue to decline, what's your plant at RT with Moton eating up a ton of cap? All we had to do was see how his knees hold up this year and then move forward accordingly, but noooooo....

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12 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If his knees continue to decline, what's your plant at RT with Moton eating up a ton of cap? All we had to do was see how his knees hold up this year and then move forward accordingly, but noooooo....

I would have released him this season, tbh and worked with Christensen out there. 

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44 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If his knees continue to decline, what's your plant at RT with Moton eating up a ton of cap? All we had to do was see how his knees hold up this year and then move forward accordingly, but noooooo....

If he fails, got to hope a late round flyer works out since he's uncuttable and untradable for the next two years at least. 

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2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If his knees continue to decline, what's your plant at RT with Moton eating up a ton of cap? All we had to do was see how his knees hold up this year and then move forward accordingly, but noooooo....

This is why you always have to be developing a tackle and a G/C. BC may not grade out as high as TM but he's also not 22M AAV. 

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1 hour ago, Stuart Smith said:

There are not 14 over the age of 32 with questionable knees. He has been one of the most dependable consistent lineman in our history. The concern is if he will he hold up 2 more years with the questionable knees. 

3 years. 

If this contract looks like I think it does and like I posted a few pages back. His dead cap in 2027 will be around 29m. So the Panthers need him to be healthy and playing for three more seasons. 

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Still have yet to see this broken down anywhere by anyone past the details that he's getting 58.4m over three years with 54.3m guaranteed. 

 

That does tell us two things though. 

1. His contract was changed this year because he didn't have any guaranteed money left on his contract. 

2. All of this years salary is guaranteed.

Since his new deal has 40m of 44m guaranteed. 

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16 hours ago, Loyalty4Life said:

In your opinion.

What do you think Moton's true value in contract, dollars and guarantees?

If we had not extended him, what is your plan for RT in 27 and 28?

How important are good offensive linemen for our current offense?

How much value do you put on protecting Bryce at this stage of his career?

How difficult in general do you think finding above average tackles in the NFL is?

fuging Christ dude this isnt hard.  Like at all.  I get you simping for this poo team is your thing but sometimes you have to look at reality.

 

Even removing his bum knee from the equation, none of this made sense.  He is 31.  He has been paid handsomely for his service here.  He was currently under contract for this season.  Why in the holy fug did anything have to be done 2 weeks before the season started.   The people for this move, in this thread are saying A) He deserved it (this is the nfl it doesnt work like that  B) It frees up cap space (then why in the fug didnt we do this in Feb or C) You logic (We are getting a deal at 53 million guaranteed for the next 3 years.   You realize with this deal we cannot cut or trade his ass for 3 years.  You understand this right?

 

So in my opinion we should have let this ride into the offseason and go from there, what he is going to threaten to walk, big fuging deal he would be 32 on a chronically bad knee, what other moronic franchise is going to give him 40 million up front?  It wasnt going to happen.   And you are acting like its impossible to replace a 32 year old RT with a bum knee.  Just go and draft someone, move Icky to RT.  There are tons of options instead of extending this dude 2 weeks before the fuging season.  The truth is Morgan and the shitheads in the FO fell for this dudes crying act and got all sentimental and shelled out another ext.  We are a poverty ass franchise that doesnt act professionally

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8 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

3 years. 

If this contract looks like I think it does and like I posted a few pages back. His dead cap in 2027 will be around 29m. So the Panthers need him to be healthy and playing for three more seasons. 

Its quite literally insanity and its quite literally textbook panthering.  Literally 2 weeks before the season they pull this poo.  It absolutely helps no one but Moton.   fug morgan fug tepper and fug tillis.  This is a horrendous move no matter how you sell it.  But but but culture, but but but it sets a precedent, but but but he deserves it, but but but it frees up cap space.   It was a stupid fuging move. 

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Another day, another dumb move by the Panthers.  I'm numb to this idiocy and have been for a while. This organization under Tepper has ran off or drained the emotional investment of most of it's core fans.  I'm around still, but refuse to put more than a minimum amount of time and energy into this team anymore. 

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