ProFootballFocus on Xavier Legette

[TheSpecialJuan]

• Disappointing production in Week 1: Xavier Legette caught just three of his seven targets for 10 total receiving yards against the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• Legette's grades weren't any better: His 54.2 receiving grade in Week 1 marked the 17th straight game that he’s recorded a sub-67.0 receiving grade.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-xavier-legette-struggling-to-justify-carolina-panthers-first-round-investment

[LinvilleGorge]

XL sucks but PFF seems like they're on mission to defend Bryce.

[CRA]

If BY is higher than he should be, it means the WRs are lower   The negative exists, so if they don’t give it to BY it all gets pushed onto others.

PFF seems to apply unique QB logic that extends nowhere else.  Well, what if Saunders caught a 50/50 ball that he didn’t? Well that would be awesome for Bryce if it did happen so he gets a great grade on that incompletion. But Saunders gets knocked big.  A WR like Renfrow.  What if his QB threw good balls….well Renfrow would have had a great day but nothing happened.  Renfrow is graded as one of the worst in the NFL lol

[uncfan888]

28 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

XL sucks but PFF seems like they're on mission to defend Bryce.

Lots of people are 

[CRA]

Oh and the PFF brainiacs were breaking down the upcoming game.   Dude said if there is one thing we know about Bryce Young…..he wants to throw the ball downfield

wut? 

I think they must have let AI takeover their work or some poo.  It doesn’t sound like they watch Bryce Young.  Who would describe Bryce like that lol 

[Dave Gettleman's Shorts]

[LinvilleGorge]

25 minutes ago, CRA said:

Oh and the PFF brainiacs were breaking down the upcoming game.   Dude said if there is one thing we know about Bryce Young…..he wants to throw the ball downfield

wut? 

I think they must have let AI takeover their work or some poo.  It doesn’t sound like they watch Bryce Young.  Who would describe Bryce like that lol 

I have no idea what's going on there if they're trying to curry favor with Tepper to try to get on his payroll too but it's odd and it might be tanking their credibility. Everyone else is watching these games too. You can't "muh system" your way through this poo 

[frankw]

PFF can put out whatever they like. I'm going to watch these upcoming games with my own eyes and form conclusions based on that.

And at the end of the day there can be different things true at one time. Xavier Legette could end up being yet another swing and a miss. But if we are operating with the same set of rules that many have applied for our first overall pick then it is still quite early. But I don't expect consistency from that lot.

As far as our staff and PFF goes I am a firm believer that no matter what happens the rest of the season we need to fully purge the college scouting staff from top to bottom and also rethink our use of analytics going forward because we have been terrible and we remain terrible.

Edited 2 hours ago by frankw

[carpanfan96]

PFF analytics suck so much that it's sad, and laughably pathetic that they get so much credit for doing such a shitty ass job. 

[mrBdawg]

23 minutes ago, CRA said:

If BY is higher than he should be, it means the WRs are lower   The negative exists, so if they don’t give it to BY it all gets pushed onto others.

PFF seems to apply unique QB logic that extends nowhere else.  Well, what if Saunders caught a 50/50 ball that he didn’t? Well that would be awesome for Bryce if it did happen so he gets a great grade on that incompletion. But Saunders gets knocked big.  A WR like Renfrow.  What if his QB threw good balls….well Renfrow would have had a great day but nothing happened.  Renfrow is graded as one of the worst in the NFL lol

Are you talking about Jatavion Sanders? And his big fat drop on a “50/50” ball where Bryce put it in right in his hands? And the defender did not even get his head around or a hand on the ball?

You’re wondering why a receiver would be knocked for dropping a ball that hit him directly in both hands? And why a qb would be graded positively for throwing a guy open with a tight window downfield pass?

we being fr right now?

[AggieLean]

Disappointed in XL, too. He’s just not that good. Cant wait until Coker returns. Another wasted pick. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, AggieLean said:

Disappointed in XL, too. He’s just not that good. Cant wait until Coker returns. Another wasted pick. 

If Coker picks up where he left off last year he needs to quickly replace XL in the starting lineup. We might have need to use XL like the Vikings used Cordarelle Patterson. We may have drafted a great athlete who just isn't a WR. Okay, whatever. Don't cry about it. Just try to figure out how to best utilize him and understand that yeah, he's never gonna live up to 1st round billing. Again, whatever. Something is better than nothing. Try to figure it out.

[CRA]

11 minutes ago, mrBdawg said:

Are you talking about Jatavion Sanders? And his big fat drop on a “50/50” ball where Bryce put it in right in his hands? And the defender did not even get his head around or a hand on the ball?

You’re wondering why a receiver would be knocked for dropping a ball that hit him directly in both hands? And why a qb would be graded positively for throwing a guy open with a tight window downfield pass?

we being fr right now?

You explain how Renfrow gets his grade in the what if the other guy actually did his job world of PFF? 

That ball to TE Saunders is a very difficult ball.  Thats not a gimme that’s supposed to get logged like the XL foot down ball.  It wasn’t a 50/50 im the sense 2 guys were going up for the same ball.  It’s just a low % play.  A TE gonna collect that type ball maybe half the time. 

[AggieLean]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If Coker picks up where he left off last year he needs to quickly replace XL in the starting lineup. We might have need to use XL like the Vikings used Cordarelle Patterson. We may have drafted a great athlete who just isn't a WR. Okay, whatever. Don't cry about it. Just try to figure out how to best utilize him and understand that yeah, he's never gonna live up to 1st round billing. Again, whatever. Something is better than nothing. Try to figure it out.

Yea, when Coker comes back, I’d work on phasing XL out. You’re a bit more optimistic on him than I am. I don’t see him lasting long in this league at all. Sucks, because I like XL the person. Seems like a genuine guy, comes from the area my mother is from, just a likeable guy. He’s just not a WR, and I don’t think he can be one.