Bryce Young is a problem — what would you do if you were Dan Morgan?

[KSpan]

13 hours ago, frankw said:

"Just think of Bryce Young as if he is a 7th round pick"

"Bryce Young is so good we won't need to invest heavily in WR"

You legitimately sound like David Tepper.

12 hours ago, mc52beast said:

Who said the locker room is losing confidence? Unlike fair weather fans athletes know it’s a long season. They don’t turn on their teammates like fans turn on the players.

Do you not remember how quickly the tone of the player interviews changed that first week Bryce was benched last year? Players are still people too - they can respect their teammates and still be irritated at poor performance. Not mutually exclusive.

[BrewerHouseBeer]

If by week 5 he's not looking like a top 15 QB. Especially if we are 0-4. Considering this is the easy portion of our schedule. I'd bench him and run with Dalton or Hooker. Then release him in the off season. No one is going to trade for him. To continue to play him at that point would be a waist. Even if he somehow would get better, down the stretch, there is no way you can trust that it's real. The body of bad work is just too large. Being a decent QB in 6 of 34 or 35 games, and being one of the worst in the league in the rest of those is too much evidence that, you just aren't going to cut it. You also cant keep playing him because other players careers are on the line. To continue to march out a QB that you know will be off the team next year would turn the players against you. 

[mrcompletely11]

There are still people here defending Bryces play?  What a fuging bizarro world

[CmC2k]

I'd give Bryce until the trade deadline to prove he's the answer and if he's not I'm dumping him for whatever pick we can get and I'm riding with Dalton the rest of the way. 

2 and a half years is enough time to determine if he can be the QB going forward so for Bryce he needs to come out over the next couple of weeks and show that. The other players in the locker room don't wanna waste another year of their careers waiting to see if you'll ever figure it out. 

If you took a poll of the players in the locker room I'm sure they'd rather lose with a respected veteran Dalton who at least gives them some creditability versus losing with Bryce who the entire media will say was let down by his supporting cast when in reality it's Bryce's physical limitations that are holding this team back. 

Edited 11 hours ago by CmC2k

[CmC2k]

On 9/11/2025 at 6:32 PM, frankw said:

Sam Darnold

Baker Mayfield

Justin Fields 

Daniel Jones

The grasping at straws namedropping QB's who all have the necessary physical tools to compensate for other areas in an attempt to prop up a QB who does not and has poor processing is getting awkward.

Bryce is a really smart kid and I'm sure he knows all the answers to the test but he hasn't been able to overcome his lack of physical tools and other DC's know this and play him accordingly. I think Bryce has good processing but when the correct read is the WR 30 to 40 yards down field and you have a defensive lineman coming at you what can he really do? He just doesn't have the arm to effectively and consistently hurt the defense and I think that's what's gonna do him in. 

Pime example look at the INT versus Dallas last year when Thelien was wide open down the seam and Bryce threw it from a clean pocket and the ball was way short. Dc's watched that and knew that Bryce can't throw the ball deep. 

[CRA]

23 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

There are still people here defending Bryces play?  What a fuging bizarro world

It’s going to get wild after this Sunday.  I would assume Dave has a really smart plan.   Sorta like the AZ plan last year.    After a big turnover heavy  bad game Bryce normally reels it in. 

Bryce will have one of his standard 60% for 200 days and the Bryce defenders will use that as a “ I told you he is good” games.  

 

[*FreeFua*]

Dan Morgan himself is a bigger problem

[OldhamA]

6 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Dan Morgan himself is a bigger problem

He accepted the job, like Canales, under the premise that he'd commit to Young as the QB.

Both Morgan and Canales are underqualified for their current roles - and quite frankly I don't think anyone else wanted the jobs with the said remit of committing to Young.

He's doing his best with his hands tied - but yes he's clearly not a great GM. 

[Waldo]

1 hour ago, OldhamA said:

He accepted the job, like Canales, under the premise that he'd commit to Young as the QB.

Both Morgan and Canales are underqualified for their current roles - and quite frankly I don't think anyone else wanted the jobs with the said remit of committing to Young.

He's doing his best with his hands tied - but yes he's clearly not a great GM. 

He is either still sticking to a bad plan or an idiot. With the current situation it could be both. The Evero and the QB situations were self-inflicted and absolutely avoidable. Not using anything learned, or should have been learned, from last year and just doing it again creates a situation where it's looking impossible to avoid splashback in the current trajectory....again.

Any hand tying was part of what they signed up for upfront so I give zero excuses for that. 

[Killah_Ray]

I actually don’t think Canales is a problem, but Dan has made some really really stupid draft choices. XL over McConkey and the Brooks selection altogether were the epitome of stupid fuging picks. 
 

Bryce will be lucky to flounder in the league past 2 seasons after we finally cut bait with him. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

55 minutes ago, Waldo said:

He is either still sticking to a bad plan or an idiot. With the current situation it could be both. The Evero and the QB situations were self-inflicted and absolutely avoidable. Not using anything learned, or should have been learned, from last year and just doing it again creates a situation where it's looking impossible to avoid splashback in the current trajectory....again.

Any hand tying was part of what they signed up for upfront so I give zero excuses for that. 

The way they draft has played out makes me think Tepper, or at least his system, is still involved. Our drafting looks based more of an algorithm and some analytic model than watching actual football or even common sense. Now we've brought PFF into the building. More analytics. Where are the guys that just watch football. This guy can separate. This guy rises under pressure. This guy has a feel for the flow of the game. Bend. Hands. Footwork. Just fuging football. Its like we're watching fantasy football based drafting and team building except there isn't a waiver wire to pick up the hot replacement for one of your bust picks.

[Waldo]

4 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

The way they draft has played out makes me think Tepper, or at least his system, is still involved. Our drafting looks based more of an algorithm and some analytic model than watching actual football or even common sense. Now we've brought PFF into the building. More analytics. Where are the guys that just watch football. This guy can separate. This guy rises under pressure. This guy has a feel for the flow of the game. Bend. Hands. Footwork. Just fuging football. Its like we're watching fantasy football based drafting and team building except there isn't a waiver wire to pick up the hot replacement for one of your bust picks.

There is a reason that Peters walked from Tepper's mess during the interview process. Using more info to help? Sure. Drafting by PFF and hiring those people in house? Just setting up for failure again IMO. I'm a little shocked Morgan signed up for that being a football guy. I know his front office skills/history falls on the pro side and not the draft side but the current set up isn't going to work IMO. Tepper is great at finding dead ends vs just learning the sport and doing that vs trying to reinvent the wheel. It was always Tepper's system which these people signed up for so still zero excuses there. 

[raleigh-panther]

52 minutes ago, Killah_Ray said:

I actually don’t think Canales is a problem, but Dan has made some really really stupid draft choices. XL over McConkey and the Brooks selection altogether were the epitome of stupid fuging picks. 
 

Bryce will be lucky to flounder in the league past 2 seasons after we finally cut bait with him. 

I could not believe XL was drafted ahead of Ladd

i recall Young's father pushing for him

Canales  was looking for an  equivalent to Dk Metcalf and Mike Evans

he got Jonathan Mingo with personally 

[Wanderlai]

Bryce is going to get Dan fired