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0-17. Draft Joey Aguilar

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9 hours ago, 45catfan said:

I doubt he comes out this year.  Arch is having a rough go of it, he's likely staying too.

If I was him, it’s the perfect year to come out for that reason.  I know Vandy won and he got injured in that game, but I’ve been seeing chatter about Pavia as a top QB too, and although they won, he doesn’t look like a franchise QB.  Arch, for whatever the reason he looks so bad, he just isn’t a franchise QB either.  All the other guys that come to mind who are RS Soph or Juniors, to me, are not appealing.  Sellers likely is the most physically gifted QB were he to come out this year.  They even opened the game with the graphic about him being a potential #1 overall pick.  He’s already got the hype.  If the other guys stay in school, it just drives his stock up higher.

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9 hours ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

After watching the falcons game tonight, I think we might actually win next week.

If we can not turn the ball over and defense plays below average instead of horrible like today, there is a shot. 

I feel like with Bryce, our defense is always guaranteed to give up 25 minimum.  It’s built-in.

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15 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

There's not a single rookie in this draft that's going to make us win more than 3 games next year. If you want to start winning, going to have to look for a vet.

The problem is that finding a vet is probably an even taller task than finding a QB in the draft. Teams aren't in the habit of letting go of serviceable QBs. There aren't any vets available who their team hasn't decided that either A) this guy isn't a starter or B) this guy is washed. That's pretty much the entirety of veteran QBs that are available.

It's not about next season. Forget about next season. Our biggest issue i. The Teller era is that we've constantly been focused on how we can be the best bad team we can be next season. This has clouded our ability to actually try to build a roster that can sustain success. It's just constant knee jerk band aid approaches. 

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

The problem is that finding a vet is probably an even taller task than finding a QB in the draft. Teams aren't in the habit of letting go of serviceable QBs. There aren't any vets available who their team hasn't decided that either A) this guy isn't a starter or B) this guy is washed. That's pretty much the entirety of veteran QBs that are available.

It's not about next season. Forget about next season. Our biggest issue i. The Teller era is that we've constantly been focused on how we can be the best bad team we can be next season. This has clouded our ability to actually try to build a roster that can sustain success. It's just constant knee jerk band aid approaches. 

It’s hard to find a vet as a legit long term starter.  But it would be easy to improve upon the QB room we have today.  Someone like Sam Howell might be ass but he could have been had for basically nothing.  And he has some NFL level tools

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hate to break it to you but there ain't a quarterback worth a damn coming to the draft. The talent pool has fallen off. We need a veteran at this point, a pro bowler, open the damn check book. Much as I said before the last draft, we can't draft. We don't hit on poo. FFS go get Jameis at this point. We could have had Wilson. fug it, push for Kyler.

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Just now, PNW_PantherMan said:

It’s hard to find a vet as a legit long term starter.  But it would be easy to improve upon the QB room we have today.  Someone like Sam Howell might be ass but he could have been had for basically nothing.  And he has some NFL level tools

Oh, I agree. I've said I'm all for bringing in someone like Howell or Jameis. IMO, when you don't have a QB you have to pursue all potential avenues. Look at the draft, look at free agency, look at the trade market. Sometimes you luck into an answer where you don't expect it. We didn't truly expect Jake to be the answer. I don't think the Lions expected Goff to be their answer when they got him included in the Stafford trade, they probably just wanted him as a bridge QB. Just look for ways to improve your roster. It doesn't seem like we do that. We think we have boxes checked and just don't even look to potentially improve. Oh, we have Andy Dalton we're good at backup QB. 

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      Actually that 4400 was based on a 16 game season to match Bryce's 16 games this year. Your offense has to be to drive the ball when it matters. Bryce doesn't do that with any level of consistency. If you're building a team that isn't focused on your QB, then fine. Then there's no need to pay Bryce as a franchise QB because literally anyone else will do. If you're going to pay him 50m plus per season, you have to be able to put the team on his shoulders and know he's going to carry the load. So far, when the pressure is on to get it done, Bryce has fallen miserably short of the target. 4-6 to finish out the season and 0-2 when all we need is a win to secure a playoff spot isn't stepping up and proving yourself as a franchise QB. I'd say it's quite the opposite.  There isn't a single coach in this league that would take Bryce over Burrow and very few if any that would take Bryce over Prescott. Hurts didn't have to throw in 2025 because Philly's defense was disgusting and Saquan had a MVP season. But then again, Hurts has shown that he can when it counts, and then there's his signature. Philly runs the tush push to lethal perfection, but that's a play we can't even consider with Bryce. You used 3 QBs from teams that had no defense to show QB stats don't always matter. When we had the worst defense in the NFL, we didn't see Bryce step up and carry the offense and put up gaudy numbers in a losing season because we were playing catch up. It was pretty much the opposite.  What have we seen from Bryce consistently to consider offering him a top 10 NFL franchise QB level contract? At the end of the day, that's all that matters.   
    • KillerKat
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      I mean, what fanbase has high expectations when you have a QB like Bryce leading your team?
    • LinvilleGorge
      2027: Sharing my thoughts on the cap without a lotta research

      By LinvilleGorge · Posted

      If you pay Bryce $50M a year you greatly limit your ability to put the type of team around him you need to have to have a chance to win. THAT is the problem. Hell, we can't win with him on a rookie contract. How the hell are we supposed to start winning with him paying him like a franchise QB and having to make tough roster decisions to accommodate his cap hit? 
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