Be careful what you wish for

[frankw]

8 hours ago, KaseKlosed said:

People wanted to get rid of Cam.

Only very foolish people and they are all long gone.

Matt Rhule was a terrible hire and he wanted no part of trying to develop a rookie QB. Most people have wanted us to draft a QB the right way for years now. By that I mean no trade hauls no mortgaging the future to move up and putting even more pressure on the guy we pick just staying put at our pick and taking one and seeing how it goes. Everything we have done with trying to "fix" the QB position has been an impulsive splash move instead of being calculated. And that is because of the Tepper's.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, AceBoogie said:

We don’t even have to do all of this. Why hasn’t a QB been good here since Cam Newton? 

Because we suck at QB talent evaluation, especially with respect to the NFL Draft.

We have only had one above average starting caliber QB even on the roster since Cam, Baker Mayfield. And that was typical roster dysfunction that led to him being axed. Wilks didn't like Baker so he essentially canned him. Another of many reasons why I will never understand how some fans get so stuck up on Wilks as being this "missed opportunity." He was a bottom shelf NFL HC. He only looked good because we had that retarded nitwit, Matt Rhule as a HC prior to him. 

Anyway, our QB issues are all self inflicted. We can't evaluate worth a fug and then when we get mildly serviceable(Bridgewater) or potentially starting caliber(Mayfield) options, we fug it up.

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Because we suck at QB talent evaluation, especially with respect to the NFL Draft.

We have only had one above average starting caliber QB even on the roster since Cam, Baker Mayfield. And that was typical roster dysfunction that led to him being axed. Wilks didn't like Baker so he essentially canned him. Another of many reasons why I will never understand how some fans get so stuck up on Wilks as being this "missed opportunity." He was a bottom shelf NFL HC. He only looked good because we had that retarded nitwit, Matt Rhule as a HC prior to him. 

Anyway, our QB issues are all self inflicted. We can't evaluate worth a fug and then when we get mildly serviceable(Bridgewater) or potentially starting caliber(Mayfield) options, we fug it up.

Suck at talent evaluation is an understatement. How our scouting department has a job is baffling. These guys must listen to Mel Kiper Jr. and all the other draft gurus. It's the only explanation for being wrong this often. Plus no one has a feel for the draft. We're always on the end of the run instead of the beginning, making panic picks or picks that make no sense from the beginning. We draft RAS scores instead of guys to fit a system. Then it's just throw poo at the wall.and see what sticks. Everyone jokes about being better than the Panthers' GM, but for the last 5 years, that's been a low bar to step over.

I want to be wrong about the guys we draft and how we go about FA, but since Tepper got this team, it seems like all of us Huddlers are right about how wrong our FO, scouts and coaching are way to fugging much. 

[TN05]

6 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Wilks didn't like Baker so he essentially canned him. Another of many reasons why I will never understand how some fans get so stuck up on Wilks as being this "missed opportunity."

He canned Baker because Baker was playing terribly. Darnold actually played quite well for most of the end of that season.

[strato]

2 hours ago, TN05 said:

He canned Baker because Baker was playing terribly. Darnold actually played quite well for most of the end of that season.

I remember Wilks being very complimentary to Baker for the way he handled himself. Mostly how he responded when Wilks committed to Darnold, I think. 
We would have been so much better off if Baker had played well and we kept him and DJ and the number 9 and all the rest of our picks.