Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Jared Feinberg's Falcons v Panthers film breakdown


TheSpecialJuan
 Share

Recommended Posts

7 minutes ago, Murph said:

No, I’m sorry but the Huddle gospel was that Moore was worthless and was only on the roster because he was butt buddies with the HC

if we are keeping the main thing the main thing..he isn't a good WR.  And he likely does have a roster spot simply because he is Dave's guy. 

I mean kudos on a good run blocking day.   But if all you can really do is run block AND you occupy every snap in a game on the outside......that's most likely going to limit the O and be a more of a net negative than a positive most days. 

 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, CRA said:

if we are keeping the main thing the main thing..he isn't a good WR.  And he likely does have a roster spot simply because he is Dave's guy. 

I mean kudos on a good run blocking day.   But if all you can really do is run block AND you occupy every snap in a game on the outside......that's most likely going to limit the O and be a more of a net negative than a positive most days. 

 

To be fair… the passing game isn’t exactly a threat.  Might as well put extra linemen out wide.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 hours ago, CRA said:

if we are keeping the main thing the main thing..he isn't a good WR.  And he likely does have a roster spot simply because he is Dave's guy. 

I mean kudos on a good run blocking day.   But if all you can really do is run block AND you occupy every snap in a game on the outside......that's most likely going to limit the O and be a more of a net negative than a positive most days. 

 

That was the game plan.  It worked.  

I never planned to be the resident David Moore advocate but the guy went 32 for 351 and 3 TDs last year as the 5th option.  19 of the 32 went for 1st downs.  He's not restricted to blocking.  He's not elite.  He's a solid contributor as demonstrated above. 

Edited by ClawOn
  • Pie 9
Link to comment
Share on other sites

32 minutes ago, ClawOn said:

That was the game plan.  It worked.  

I never planned to be the resident David Moore advocate but the guy went 32 for 351 and 3 TDs last year as the 5th option.  19 of the 32 went for 1st downs.  He's not restricted to blocking.  He's not elite.  He's a solid contributor as demonstrated above. 

This place has very unrealistic expectations for a WR 5 

  • Pie 7
Link to comment
Share on other sites

One of the key stats that wasn't mentioned here was the Falcons average starting field position was their 19 yard line.  I really haven't watched much this season, so I don't know if our kicker did this in the first two games, but this dorky dude seems to make the point that the panther's ability to squib kick was instrumental and perhaps unique.

https://x.com/SyedSchemes/status/1955260481330950406

Sorry if not formatted correctly.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, Murph said:

No, I’m sorry but the Huddle gospel was that Moore was worthless and was only on the roster because he was butt buddies with the HC

I mean... If being good at toss blocks is your only good quality as a WR, you probably aren't good... Much easier to use him solely in that role when the falcons can't score a single point 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

All this is great, but still...Penix was awful---missing wide open  receivers left and right. We still may have won the game if he had just been decent, but it's just hard to get too excited. Let's see some continued growth from the rookies, and another good outing and more consistency from the defense in general. If this happens, then excitement may begin to overtake skepticism. 

We have to beat the Pats, or the raised eyes from the Atlanta beat down will become furrowed with the quickness, and any inkling of goodwill be lost.

Edited by TD alt
  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, ClawOn said:

That was the game plan.  It worked.  

I never planned to be the resident David Moore advocate but the guy went 32 for 351 and 3 TDs last year as the 5th option.  19 of the 32 went for 1st downs.  He's not restricted to blocking.  He's not elite.  He's a solid contributor as demonstrated above. 

The David Moore hate is, quite frankly, absurd. He is good for what he is, a 4th/5th WR that is an excellent special teams player.

It's hilarious we have so many Moore detractors but then guys like XL get infinite passes.

Edited by kungfoodude
  • Pie 6
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Icege said:

Penix was awful because the defense bottled up their run game and was finally getting pressure. It clearly rattled him, as it would most QBs.

Eh.....I tend to disagree on the run defense but that's whatever.

The thing that struck me immediately was that they DID have ample opportunities to get yards on our pass defense but Penix was so frequently off target with the ball that it was nuts. Late, behind, too high, too short, etc. He was spraying throws everywhere but where they were intended to go.

I am a little reticent to give TOO much credit to our defense for that reason. They did generate a lot more pressure on the QB so that was great. 

It's a one game sample so I don't want to reset the expectations just yet. Hopefully it's a trend and not a statistical outlier.

 

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Eh.....I tend to disagree on the run defense but that's whatever.

The thing that struck me immediately was that they DID have ample opportunities to get yards on our pass defense but Penix was so frequently off target with the ball that it was nuts. Late, behind, too high, too short, etc. He was spraying throws everywhere but where they were intended to go.

I am a little reticent to give TOO much credit to our defense for that reason. They did generate a lot more pressure on the QB so that was great. 

It's a one game sample so I don't want to reset the expectations just yet. Hopefully it's a trend and not a statistical outlier.

 

Yeah, I just think Penix had one of those nightmare games that had more to do with himself than our D.   Then the whole team around him sort of imploded too.  

but we were due for one of those going our way for a change vs us being the one gifting games to an opponent.  

  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I hope Bryce balls out. Wouldn't bet the farm on it though. Morgan has to be practical though. He was placed into a situation where he was compelled to give Bryce a long look. There really haven't been any more practical options due to who has been available at the position. The Panthers had already put their chips in with Bryce, so putting more chips in by borrowing against the future and stacking on that by borrowing against the future without really having the requisite draft capital was a nonstarter. We could either dump Bryce and go dumpster diving for known and unknown JAGs at the position, or take out chances and let it play out with Bryce and hope for acceptable returns. Due to what looks like some good moves in the draft and free agency, it appears like we're finally getting into a position where we can take a swing again if need be without destroying the core of the team. I understand that you'll believe it when you see it, but Dan is gonna move on if Bryce can't cut it. There are too many professionals lives and careers tied to Bryce to simply accept the status quo. 
    • Football is the ultimate team sport. No sport is more dependent on others for your success - including coaching. I don't know if Bryce is the guy, but I do know this has been a very bad team all around since he got here. One of the worst o-lines and coaching staffs I've ever seen his rookie year. One of the worst defenses and receiving groups (including TEs) I've ever seen his 2nd season - with a rookie HC and OC. An improving WR group his 3rd season mostly due to a rookie. The only other WR of note didn't really play well until after the 10th game of the season due to injury. Still no receiving TE to speak of. And lost games because of the worst pass rush in the NFL. And the only speed he's ever had on the field was DJ Chark. A washed up DJ Chark that played here one year and has had 31 yards receiving since leaving.  Carolina had no business moving up for a QB in 2023. They weren't ready. Especially if it meant trading your only good WR to do it. Now finally there's potential on defense. Potential on o-line. Potential at WR, including some actual speed in a game where speed kills. If BY falls on his face this season, then he has to own it. Situation may not be perfect, but it's at least NFL average across the board. I won't beat him up for being bad in bad situations on a bad team. But a 4th year QB has to be able to control the offense and make players/coaches right. The team looks good enough on paper to show what he can do now.   
×
×
  • Create New...