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Bryce Young Is a Symptom, Not the Disease

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My hope is that we get a top 2 pick this year and are able to trade back for multiple 1st’s. That said, I’m not very confident in this regime’s ability to not only make those picks, but in this coaching staff’s ability to put these picks in position to be successful. 

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9 minutes ago, csx said:

Im not falling for it anymore. I thought it was a horrible decision but then bought in to the hype. Then I allowed myself to buy in again late last season. No more. 

I think we’re all there

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Istead of admitting that you make excuses for Canales too for having Bryce as QB.  If Canales offense requires perfect execution at all times just to be competitive maybe it’s not a great offense after all. 

This is simply false. I've been critical of Canales multiple times the last two years and certainly over the last few months going back to preseason this year and last year. He let the starters off too easy two preseasons in a row after they underwhelmed and we started the regular season poorly.

I have no idea if he will end up being our coach for the future. It is not looking good for him and he has repeatedly had his team coming out looking completely flat multiple times so far as head coach. If he goes he goes. However. That does not mean I am expecting him or any other coach to magically make Bryce Young a franchise QB because they are not miracle workers. Bryce's physical attributes are what they are and they are severely lacking. It is what it is.

Now if you're done just making things up trying to portray me as a hater or this or that I'm going to wish you good luck watching the upcoming game and thank you for your discussion.

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7 minutes ago, frankw said:

This is simply false. I've been critical of Canales multiple times the last two years and certainly over the last few months going back to preseason this year and last year. He let the starters off too easy two preseasons in a row after they underwhelmed and we started the regular season poorly.

I have no idea if he will end up being our coach for the future. It is not looking good for him and he has repeatedly had his team coming out looking completely flat multiple times so far as head coach. If he goes he goes. However. That does not mean I am expecting him or any other coach to magically make Bryce Young a franchise QB because they are not miracle workers. Bryce's physical attributes are what they are and they are severely lacking. It is what it is.

Now if you're done just making things up trying to portray me as a hater or this or that I'm going to wish you good luck watching the upcoming game and thank you for your discussion.

So combative lol

I already said Bryce is not a franchise QB  so not sure what your point of contention is.  Canales is also not a franchise HC and Tepper is not the right owner.  Morgan is not the right GM 

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Bryce is absolutely part of the problem. Just like the Teppers, scouting staff, coaching and GM are also part of thr problem.

It's everything. And watching a limited QB waste games would still make me mad regardless of the trade. It's year 3 and he is still terrible to watch. 

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8 hours ago, Jacabee said:

Tepper didn’t have the wisdom to ban the move up for Bryce. Doesn’t matter what you think about Bryce, who can argue that the move at that cost is defensible at this point?

It’s a crippling trickle down affect of no top first rounders under 5 year contracts. We then doubled down with leggette after trading up. We’re spiraling debtors.

Of course present staff is willing to trade in futures when, if it fails, they’re not going to be around to weather the consequences anyway.  
 

 

Ban the move? I guarantee he was driving the move.

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12 hours ago, NAS said:

I was just thinking — if Bryce had been the #1 overall pick without the massive trade-up, there wouldn’t be nearly this much anger and resentment toward him. The problem isn’t Bryce himself; it’s what Scott Fitterer gave up to get him and how the front office completely mismanaged the assets that followed.

The picks from the Christian McCaffrey trade — one of our few major opportunities to rebuild with young talent — were essentially wasted. The second-rounder was used on Jonathan Mingo,  The third and fourth-round picks were packaged to move up for DJ Johnson, a 25-year-old rookie  who looked like a miss from day 1. 

 

Minor thing but Mingo was our original 2nd rounder at the 9 slot.  The 2nd rounder from CMC was used in the Bryce trade, and Chicago traded it to Jacksonville for Brenton Strange.  

Our original 2023 3rd was sent the prior year for Corral.  So you're right that the 3rd and 4th from the CMC trade were used to get DJJ.  The Steelers got Washington (TE) and Herbig (EDGE) out of it.  

Nonetheless, total mismanagement and poor drafting.  

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28 minutes ago, NAS said:

So combative lol

I already said Bryce is not a franchise QB  so not sure what your point of contention is.  Canales is also not a franchise HC and Tepper is not the right owner.  Morgan is not the right GM 

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"Not a franchise QB" suggests that you think he's an NFL QB. He's not that, either.

He might make a wonderful son-in-law for someone and be a competent middle manager down the line, but he's not an NFL calibre football player and, quite frankly, clearly never was. 

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27 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Regardless of what the scoreboard says at the end of today's game I'll chalk it up as a massive win if it's the last time I have to see Bryce Young trot out as a starting QB for the Carolina Panthers.

It's insane that they're still trotting him out there. 

This is not a serious franchise. 

We have an owner (and a GM / HC beholden to said owner) more interested in trying to save face than actually trying to win football games.

A franchise serious about winning would have admitted Young wasn't the guy halfway through last season and committed to moving on from him.

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