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Bryce Young Is a Symptom, Not the Disease


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1 hour ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Im not a Morgan fan either, but Im still not 100% convinced that BY and the lack of competition isn't a Tepper thing vs a Dan thing which means it's still a Dan problem. We need to upgrade our backup. Dalton was re-signed to keep Bryce comfortable, not compete for a starting job. Bryce was Tepper's draft choice through yes man Fittershits, not Reich's. I could very well be wrong, but it would appear that there' pressure coming from above Dan to give as much leash to Bryce as possible and not challenge him at all. Either he rises or he falls. Good in theory, terrible for an NFL team on an 8 year poo the bed 

 yes one could argue well the GM is bad because of the bad owner or the Qb is bad because of the bad coach or the coach is bad because of the bad GM or the whole team just sucks because of a bad owner & on & on & on back & forth & back & forth again & again once again.

& the reality to it all that back & forth is that the Panthers missed the playoffs by one game with an interim head coach in 22' prior to drafting Bryce Young in 23' .& it went from just a Qb away in 23' to the worse record in the NFL in 23' to the worse defense in NFL history in 24' to now the least talented team in the entire NFL in 25'  & a team that will soon be 1-4 & so that tells me there is a much greater overall problem than just yes a bad Qb & i also more importantly see a pattern there  

unfortunately we cannot fire the owner & can only hope that we can hire a more competent better GM that can properly advise the owner in his descion making process 

not taking up for  David Tepper & saying you are wrong but at the same time i don't think Tepper has done himself any favors by surrounding himself with people like Fitterer & Morgan for advice   ...just saying 

 

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2 hours ago, bandu said:

i honestly think Dan Morgan is the biggest problem on this team right now & it's pretty obvious for anyone who doesn't have blinders on to see 

Dan Morgan is responsible for hiring Dave Canales & moreover without Dan Morgan then Canales is more than likely not a Panthers HC right now. Dan Morgan is responsible for not having the ability to truly evaluate Bryce Young after 2 seasons  & recongize the need to bring in an actual plan B at Qb .Dan Morgan has wasted multiple high round picks in the draft on busts or injured players. Dan Morgan was assistant GM to Scott Fitterer. Dan Morgan gutted the defense of talent in 24' for money  which he in turn spent in large part  on the oLine & by doing so it played a major factor in the Panthers having the worse defense in NFL history last season / 24'  . Dan Morgan currently has the least talented team in the NFL  25'

i could go on & oʻj but simply put Dan Morgan is incompetent at his job 

& let me say this about  Dan Morgan he is a super  nice guy & I do not mean this in any type of mean way whatsoever  or to hurt anyone's feelings .it's just simply put not the right job for Dan Morgan...just saying 

I echoed most of what you said earlier this week. The only thing I will say in defense of Morgan… he seems to have nailed this draft.

Tet and Scourton I think are legit. Ransom could be a real piece too.

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1 hour ago, MartyClemons said:

I echoed most of what you said earlier this week. The only thing I will say in defense of Morgan… he seems to have nailed this draft.

Tet and Scourton I think are legit. Ransom could be a real piece too.

I really can’t forgive the Jonathan Brooks pick. There were so many better options staring him in the face. 

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1 minute ago, NAS said:

Hey @frankw this didn’t age well as he just led a game winning drive 

Rico Dowdle himself had more rushing yards than our QB had passing yards along with two key turnovers and you think this is something to dunk over?

Do you actually think this is sustainable? Turning the ball over twice and requiring a career day from our running back?

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Just now, frankw said:

Rico Dowdle himself had more rushing yards than our QB had passing yards along with two key turnovers and you think this is something to dunk over?

Do you actually think this is sustainable? Turning the ball over twice and requiring a career day from our running back?

And you think it’s a flex to quote meaningless stats when it suits you.  Just saying you were pathetic to tag me and again show your blind hatred for Bryce.  Dolphins have the worst run defense in the NFL, glad Rico had a game and Bryce was clutch in the end.  Just take an L

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