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Official Week 5: Dolphins @ Panthers Gameday Thread


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3 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

These drops are a problem 

3 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

Hit him in both hands 

2 minutes ago, Silent Majority said:

Another drop for Tet. By9 got it there 

Not a drop, he was being dragged down and it should've been a penalty. 

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Had this conversation in the Sanders thread(s)  this week… You want to get some calls? Get some attention on this team, doesn’t matter if good or bad. Irrelevancy gets you no calls. It’s multiple reasons why the Browns, Jets, and now Panthers are the cellar dwellers. But the combination of relevancy and officiating does play a part.

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1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

A drop?

What game are you watching?

He almost made a crazy grab that 1 million percent should have been called PI as the defender was tackling him by the jersey before the ball ever got there

Everything isn't going to be layups. Again it was indeed ugly but if you can touch it with two hands in this league volleyball guy should've could've come down with it. BY9 throws 40/60 balls instead of 50/50 😆 

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12 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

I feel like this team actually has potential but Bryce is holding everyone back. Canales needs to man up and pull the trigger

I’m hopeful, although Miami is just as bad as Charlotte. These teams are 28 and 29 in the ESPN power rankings. BY makes it hard to run serious pro offensive. 

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Just now, Silent Majority said:

Everything isn't going to be layups. Again it was indeed ugly but if you can touch it with two hands in this league volleyball guy should've could've come down with it. BY9 throws 40/60 balls instead of 50/50 😆 

Just because a player maybe should have made the catch, doesn't mean it's a drop

Having said that, THAT wasn't a play that he should have come down with just because he was able to get 2 hands on it.

He got 2 hands on it while leaping and twisting in the air while being pulled back down by the defender at the same time.

General rule of thumb, if the catch was made and it would have been one of the highlight plays of the week across the league, then him not making the catch isn't a drop, not hard to understand.

Drops are when you don't catch something that you 100% should have made the catch on.

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In fairness to Moton, he has been solid this season--I do not want to see him bashed over emotions.   Dowdle has 100 yards behind him and Moton has been good vs the pass.

Mays has been solid as well. Needs to work on run blocking, but protection has been good.

BC at RG is struggling at times, understandably. 

Lewis at LG has been solid in pass pro.  Our guards and center are not that strong in run blocking, oddly.

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