This Team...

[Sup]

I just had an unpleasant realization, which is the more that we win, the more enraging it is that we have Bryce at QB. Because we could be so much better.

[Davidson Deac II]

1 hour ago, Admiral Ackbar said:

Yeah I just cant figure this team out. Some weeks our defense is lights out, other weeks it the worst I have ever seen.

Then the team has a ton of young talent and at the same time full of JAGs lol

I am still not sold on Bryce or Canales, which is obviously the most important pieces but its nice to be competitive and in games.

Nice turn around by this franchise compared to last year. Props to them

Lots of youth is the only thing i can figure out. Young players tend to be less consistent.

Edited 7 hours ago by Davidson Deac II

[Shocker]

1 hour ago, Stuart Smith said:

It is not his fault the Panthers traded “the farm” for him. He is a game manager but with the right players around him this team can be successful. He will be here at least through next year regardless. It could have fell apart today with a patchwork O.L. and playing against one of the better teams in the NFL. Regardless, he has several game winning drives. 

9 game winning drives

[Mr. Scot]

 

[Bama Panther]

1 hour ago, The Lobo said:

You don’t draft game managers number one overall. 

Bryce did not draft himself, nor did he trade what the Panthers traded to draft him. I get wanting more out of his play, but you can’t hold what the Panthers did to get him against him. Hold that against the Panthers, but definitely, Bryce’s play leaves much to be desired. 

[scratched]

1 hour ago, smash_n_dash said:

No one on this team is pulling me back in, we have an inept QB running the offense, we can’t win every game with 102 passing yards

Until we can pass the ball down the field, we will be mediocre. Win some we shouldn’t, and lose some we should win. We have to develop a vertical passing game! 

[ClawOn]

It's a bit confounding sure. But,  there's pieces. There's the beginning of the return on an actual football culture. The 25 draft class looks exemplary.  Bryce isn't winning anyone a super bowl.  Let's all accept that and move on. 

There's real reason for optimism for the first time in a long time.   Try to enjoy it. 

[csx]

I was down after the humiliating loss last week but didnt understand why people were losing their poo over it. We were still 4 and 4 and looking like the modestly improved team we had hoped for. 

Im not confused by it. This is what I expected a team flirting with 500 could look like

Edited 6 hours ago by csx

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

Again, how is that Youngs fault? Thats solely on the Panthers. I agree he's not cutting it but it's not his fault the Panthers drafted him or paid what they did to do so.

Not completely. Bryce heavily participated in the draft process. From packing on extra weight and hiding it under baggy clothes, to repeated practicing for the S2 test that miraculously is hyped beyond all recognition then never heard about again, while Stroud was trashed as an imbecile, and when his physical limitations were being called into question, he chose not to participate in combine drills. 

You could say it's not his fault where he was drafted, but I would disagree. I would say he certainly participated in getting himself drafted 1st overall and a larger guaranteed payday. 

[csx]

5 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Not completely. Bryce heavily participated in the draft process. From packing on extra weight and hiding it under baggy clothes, to repeated practicing for the S2 test that miraculously is hyped beyond all recognition then never heard about again, while Stroud was trashed as an imbecile, and when his physical limitations were being called into question, he chose not to participate in combine drills. 

You could say it's not his fault where he was drafted, but I would disagree. I would say he certainly participated in getting himself drafted 1st overall and a larger guaranteed payday. 

Who wouldnt do that? You arent making any sense.

Edited 6 hours ago by csx

[ok2h8pep]

2 minutes ago, csx said:

Who wouldnt do that? You arent making any sense.

I think he is saying that Bryce materially misrepresented himself during the draft process so, in fact, he is at least partly to blame for be over drafted.

IOW.  Bryce gamed the system like a con man and should be held accountable for it.

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 minute ago, csx said:

Who wouldnt do that? You arent making any sense.

Actually, I dont ever recall another QB packing on 20 lbs of water weight to try and hide their actual playing weight because they knew their real playing weight could potentially hurt their chance of being drafted 1st overall. 

And Stroud actually said he didnt care about test results, watch him play football. We cared about a test and Bryce had the worst rookie season in NFL history. Stroud went to the playoffs. 

[CRA]

2 hours ago, Stuart Smith said:

With Dalton starting we lose by 3 touchdowns. Regardless of differing opinions on Bryce the players respond to him. 

We lose when Rico isn’t the offense and the QB isn’t largely a spectator.  Simple as that.  

Dalton and Bryce are no different in reality 

 

[csx]

5 minutes ago, ok2h8pep said:

I think he is saying that Bryce materially misrepresented himself during the draft process so, in fact, he is at least partly to blame for be over drafted.

IOW.  Bryce gamed the system like a con man and should be held accountable for it.

Who wouldnt? The entire combine prep is exactly that for every single participant.