This Bryce Guy (General BY Discussion)

[electro's horse]

On 12/17/2025 at 12:42 PM, frankw said:

At this point picking up the option is without question. People are going to have to accept that as a starting point.

Saying something assertively doesn’t make it true, and I don’t know in what world picking up Bryce’s 5th year is some fait accompli

He’s certainly not earned it on the field. Playing arm chair psychologist with tepper isn’t very compelling. 

[frankw]

27 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Saying something assertively doesn’t make it true, and I don’t know in what world picking up Bryce’s 5th year is some fait accompli

He’s certainly not earned it on the field. Playing arm chair psychologist with tepper isn’t very compelling. 

I don't like it. You don't like it. But it is what Dan Morgan is going to do. Many people here have sang his praises for months now with some even suggesting he never wanted Bryce Young to begin with which I don't believe for a second.

But at the end of the day Dan Morgan listens to David Tepper and he is going to do what he is told.

[electro's horse]

I don’t have the time to prove this and go through all-22 and whatever (and I’m doubtful I even could without knowing the plays) but I’m convinced that Canales’ passing scheme with Bryce is one read and check down, and that it’s a tedford style early air raid system. Its quick because it relies on presnap reads and not asking the qb to do too much. It’s not productive at the nfl lvl because it only works with huge talent differentials. You could also run it with basically any nfl qb. Most of the receiving options on the field are just decoys/tiring out defenders. this is why the panthers offense is so anemic.

Kirk cousins here is talking about changes in approach and he talks about going from something similar (basically just reading safeties) to what teams are doing since mcvay came along.

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/2001477747852341324?s=46

This doesn’t prove my suspicion necessarily and obviously Canales doesn’t really come from a prolific offensive background but I guarantee you Bryce isn’t doing what Kirk is talking about in the second half of this.

 

Edited December 18, 2025 by electro's horse

[electro's horse]

19 minutes ago, frankw said:

I don't like it. You don't like it. But it is what Dan Morgan is going to do. Many people here have sang his praises for months now with some even suggesting he never wanted Bryce Young to begin with which I don't believe for a second.

I dont know about singing his praises. I think a lot of it is people thinking scourton is some budding defensive super star which I just don’t see at all.

i can’t believe for a second that Dan Morgan who would have maybe won Super Bowl mvp saw Bryce and thought it could work. There’s just no way. Same thing with Reich and mccown etc 

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

I dont know about singing his praises. I think a lot of it is people thinking scourton is some budding defensive super star which I just don’t see at all.

i can’t believe for a second that Dan Morgan who would have maybe won Super Bowl mvp saw Bryce and thought it could work. There’s just no way. Same thing with Reich and mccown etc 

2024 draft was probably one of the worst in panther history

2025 draft on paper looked good but as we sit today, granted its early, there is a lot to be desired

He obviously will get another stab at it, but so far I aint seeing it, especially if he was truly advocating for not trading burns and young over stroud

[frankw]

6 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

I dont know about singing his praises. I think a lot of it is people thinking scourton is some budding defensive super star which I just don’t see at all.

i can’t believe for a second that Dan Morgan who would have maybe won Super Bowl mvp saw Bryce and thought it could work. There’s just no way. Same thing with Reich and mccown etc 

"We never got into any discussions," Morgan replied. "I never opened that door. Didn't want to trade Bryce, still don't and committed to working with him and helping him grow and helping him develop."

[electro's horse]

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

"We never got into any discussions," Morgan replied. "I never opened that door. Didn't want to trade Bryce, still don't and committed to working with him and helping him grow and helping him develop."

People say all kinds of poo 

[frankw]

1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

People say all kinds of poo 

Well we'll just see what happens by April. But I put the odds of Bryce Young not being at Panthers training camp at about 1%.

[electro's horse]

5 minutes ago, frankw said:

Well we'll just see what happens by April. But I put the odds of Bryce Young not being at Panthers training camp at about 1%.

That’s much different than picking up the option.

normally a qb wouldn’t go into that situation with one year left but it might end up being Bryce’s only real option. I don’t think he’s going to be an appealing backup qb just because of his size. Like what other offense can he realistically run if someone goes down 

it’s absolute loser poo but Bryce is looking more and more like someone who’s just happy to be here 

[TLGPanthersFan]

5 hours ago, frankw said:

Well we'll just see what happens by April. But I put the odds of Bryce Young not being at Panthers training camp at about 1%.

Gonna be a ton of fun watching our offense be limited by his play for a 4th straight season. 
So much looking forward to that crap. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

I think we pick it up and then someone else ends up emerging as the QB next year and we end up cutting him in year 5 and eating it.  That would be the most on brand thing to happen.

[PantherPhann89]

On 12/15/2025 at 12:08 AM, MRenshaw said:

I think he implies that Bryce's remaining fans suffer from homerism of the ethnic kind. Bryce fans are desperately rallying around a fellow "Mexican" in a high profile job in an attempt to cope with what many in the Latino community regard as very dark times.

That's what i thought it was, thanks. 

[electro's horse]

Bryce young being the beacon of hope for the Hispanic community is the second saddest thing I’ve thought about recently. 

the saddest thing of course was the winning gingerbread house at Grovepark in the special needs division: the rainbow bridge.

”congrats to the two girls with Trisomy with their entry “where your dog goes when it dies.”

[OldhamA]

22 hours ago, electro's horse said:

I don’t have the time to prove this and go through all-22 and whatever (and I’m doubtful I even could without knowing the plays) but I’m convinced that Canales’ passing scheme with Bryce is one read and check down, and that it’s a tedford style early air raid system. Its quick because it relies on presnap reads and not asking the qb to do too much. It’s not productive at the nfl lvl because it only works with huge talent differentials. You could also run it with basically any nfl qb. Most of the receiving options on the field are just decoys/tiring out defenders. this is why the panthers offense is so anemic.

Kirk cousins here is talking about changes in approach and he talks about going from something similar (basically just reading safeties) to what teams are doing since mcvay came along.

https://x.com/rapsheet/status/2001477747852341324?s=46

This doesn’t prove my suspicion necessarily and obviously Canales doesn’t really come from a prolific offensive background but I guarantee you Bryce isn’t doing what Kirk is talking about in the second half of this.

 

Young isn't being tricked by coverages - so whatever Canales is teaching is working - the problem is he's just not talented enough to get the ball where it needs to be.