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I’m out on Bryce, Canales and this team

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4 hours ago, NAS said:

And Canales is not him either. A snake oil salesman just not as bad as Rhule. Offensive guru he is not. Bryce is ass but I didn’t see wide open receivers today did you?  Some scheme

Receivers arent wide open because Bryce cant throw the ball further than 20 yards down field, The field is condensed.  The secondary can throw 9 in the box or be really aggressive because there isn’t a threat of a post route. That’s not a Canales issue that’s a Bryce thing, 

  He’s smart but he’s physically limited. Glad you are finally seeing it. 

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2 hours ago, OldhamA said:

I don't think the QB room was Morgan's call.

So here's my thing. Either the QB room was his call in which case, I don't trust him to pick toilet paper for a campground bathroom, or Tepper didn't step back and is indeed dictating the moves of this organization like many of us have been saying all along. 

I don't think he's stepped back at all and has doubled and even tripled down on proving his decision to draft Bryce was the correct one. My suspicion is even if Bryce is not extended or his 5th year signed, Tepper will once again mortgage the farm to trade up and prove his superiority again and draft his guy. 

And if what I suspect is correct, and a lowly fan like myself sees it, anyone with any actual football experience is going to see it too and stay the hell away from this franchise. 

I don't know why Roger Goodell and the rest of the owners punished the fans by selling the franchise to Tepper. Wasn't Super Bowl 50 and watching Cam get speared over and over to the head a big enough fug you? 

 

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I think Jayden Maiava is a logical target.  I assume Mendoza, Simpson and Moore are gone providing they all come out.  Maiava should be easily available in the second at least by current projections.  I don’t want to mess with a small QB (like Mateer).  Sellers ain’t ready and Nessimeyer and Allar ain’t it.  Still think Carson Beck could help as a developmental back up.

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2 hours ago, Beast_3000 said:

Receivers arent wide open because Bryce cant throw the ball further than 20 yards down field, The field is condensed.  The secondary can throw 9 in the box or be really aggressive because there isn’t a threat of a post route. That’s not a Canales issue that’s a Bryce thing, 

  He’s smart but he’s physically limited. Glad you are finally seeing it. 

Yep to the condensed playing field we are working with. Defense has all kinds of advantages. 
Hia balls up the middle seem to have velocity if he is mechanically sound. But in general and especially the boundary stuff, he doesn’t have a lot zip. So one more advantage to coverage guys.  

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I wanted to give Bryce one last chance but he has proven for 2.5 years who he is. They have built everything around him and he still continues to fail miserably.  I'm fully out on Bryce. 

Canales I want to give another shot. I do think him and Morgan are building something and I do think the whole roster is getting better bit by bit. But Bryce is so limited he's an anchor on this team dragging everything down. He needs to go. Rebuild the entire qb room with no tepper strings attached and I do think the team will improve. 

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1 hour ago, PadresPanthersFan said:

I wanted to give Bryce one last chance but he has proven for 2.5 years who he is. They have built everything around him and he still continues to fail miserably.  I'm fully out on Bryce. 

Canales I want to give another shot. I do think him and Morgan are building something and I do think the whole roster is getting better bit by bit. But Bryce is so limited he's an anchor on this team dragging everything down. He needs to go. Rebuild the entire qb room with no tepper strings attached and I do think the team will improve. 

The thing that really sticks me with Canales is, if you’ve worked your whole life to reach the pinnacle of the coaching profession, and you finally get the opportunity to become one of only 32 people in the world doing it…  and you decide to commit so hard to this fuging bum who will not only get you fired if you stick with him, but will likely tank your chances of ever getting the opportunity to do it again.  That’s why it HAS to be Tepper’s call.  IT ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE.  Everyone, coach or not, has a threshold and a survival instinct attached to it - and the thought that DC hasn’t reached that point yet with the reputation he has as a QB whisperer while the guy he keeps trotting out there ha solidified himself as the worst starting QB in league history?  And again, that’s in the face of know DC needs and prefers guys with the physical tools to sling the football.  It just makes no fuging sense.  And it pisses me off even more with Tepper because you see all this and you’re still forcing him to play Bryce??????  You’re supposed to be the self-made, intelligent dude, and you are so fuging stubborn you choose to cut your nose off to spite your face every fuging Sunday you play this bitch.  It’s insane.

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I look at like there could have been an agreement to give Bryce two years while they build the team out some more. Could have been three.

He has 7 more games to change peoples’ minds and I know full well that a nice job and a win next week gets a lot of people back on his ‘side’. Some still are. They are just laying low around here today. 

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1 hour ago, strato said:

I look at like there could have been an agreement to give Bryce two years while they build the team out some more. Could have been three.

He has 7 more games to change peoples’ minds and I know full well that a nice job and a win next week gets a lot of people back on his ‘side’. Some still are. They are just laying low around here today. 

Hes had 3 years.

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6 hours ago, PadresPanthersFan said:

I wanted to give Bryce one last chance but he has proven for 2.5 years who he is. They have built everything around him and he still continues to fail miserably.  I'm fully out on Bryce. 

Canales I want to give another shot. I do think him and Morgan are building something and I do think the whole roster is getting better bit by bit. But Bryce is so limited he's an anchor on this team dragging everything down. He needs to go. Rebuild the entire qb room with no tepper strings attached and I do think the team will improve. 

If they had a suitable QB, Canales could open it up like he did in Tampa with Mayfield. This is on Young who can't throw it downfield. Why they jetisoned White at this time is beyond me. He could make all the throws needed. Now they have grandpa and Mighty Mouse left to work with. Pisses me off.

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1 hour ago, strato said:

I look at like there could have been an agreement to give Bryce two years while they build the team out some more. Could have been three.

He has 7 more games to change peoples’ minds and I know full well that a nice job and a win next week gets a lot of people back on his ‘side’. Some still are. They are just laying low around here today. 

You have to be blind in one eye and can't see out the other to think Young is the guy. 

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