Dave’s Double-Speak Says It All

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He's basically screaming that the QB room is an anchor around the offense's neck. Everyone who has any working understanding of the game of football and is being remotely objective can see it. I just hope Tepper can accept it. I'm convinced Canales and Morgan are ready to move on. Probably begging to move on.

If he can't or won't bench Bryce then I have no use for him. He's just a yes man.

[CRA]

10 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

If he can't or won't bench Bryce then I have no use for him. He's just a yes man.

Our GM, just like last year, has made not going with Bryce a nearly impossible feat.

only option is a washed Dalton with a hurt throwing hand thumb

[CRA]

2 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

To further your point, CRA, I still remember someone posted here in the pre-draft buildup a whole spreadsheet of each QB prospect from that draft class’ advanced stats.  It showed the attempts, completions, yards by area on the field, depth, whether it was in the pocket or out, etc., and I remember vividly, I was already out in Bryce based off my observations and feelings from the season prior…  but in the spirit of objectivity, I decided to look at it with a fresh set of eyes, and all it did was further cement what I saw.  What stood out to me most was that Bryce was THE WORST prospect out of that whole class in completions to the sidelines.  I remember already thinking he had a weak arm, but seeing that in the stats just gave me further conviction that he was not going to translate to the league because that’s one of the biggest staples in NFL football.  I also remember looking at all of the other throws to other locations on the field and compared to the other prospects I walked away feeling, “well, what does he do well?”  It was almost jarring compared to the reputation he had been given.  Nothing stood out.  And that exact evaluation and sentiment has carried over to his pro career. I really wish I could remember who made the thread or find it.  

Almost every sideline vertical ball he throws turns into some whack jump ball fade.  He never really gives  anyone a chance to go get it….even when they have their guy beat.   And we have seen them have a step.  Everything is a jump ball basically taking them out of bounds or the back of the endzone.  

and when asked to not go sideline he normally just holds it and kills the call…..

[LinvilleGorge]

20 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

If he can't or won't bench Bryce then I have no use for him. He's just a yes man.

Having seen what's left of Dalton I just don't think there's any point.

[kungfoodude]

11 minutes ago, CRA said:

Our GM, just like last year, has made not going with Bryce a nearly impossible feat.

only option is a washed Dalton with a hurt throwing hand thumb

Who cares? Then go with him.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Having seen what's left of Dalton I just don't think there's any point.

The point is that it's not Bryce. The same point you make for Winston.

The results are gonna be the same or worse but it's not Bryce is the point.

[CRA]

9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Who cares? Then go with him.

Dalton thumb been busted up for years.   We can start him but it just leads back to Bryce.  That’s the scam.   

insane we don’t have a youngster on the PS

[LinvilleGorge]

14 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

The point is that it's not Bryce. The same point you make for Winston.

The results are gonna be the same or worse but it's not Bryce is the point.

I get it. I just think at this point Dalton is probably even worse than Bryce. A little better arm but absolutely zero mobility. But hell, I'm up for seeing it again. It's tough to be much worse than Bryce was yesterday.

[ProcessBlue2]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I get it. I just think at this point Dalton is probably even worse than Bryce. A little better arm but absolutely zero mobility. But hell, I'm up for seeing it again. It's tough to be much worse than Bryce was yesterday.

I think Daltons arm is fine. He through that deep pass to Legette like it was nothing against NY. I’ll even take the excuse of the thumb because I did that in baseball one year, thumb was super sore and next day it doubled in size. But I think his legs stopped working. He was so slow and stiff in the pocket, he looked like he couldn’t even turn around fast enough, much less run. 

Edited 3 hours ago by ProcessBlue2

[kungfoodude]

11 minutes ago, CRA said:

Dalton thumb been busted up for years.   We can start him but it just leads back to Bryce.  That’s the scam.   

insane we don’t have a youngster on the PS

It doesn't matter. Litigating the past is pointless. Move on with Dalton. If he isn't healthy enough, line up the FA QB's until you find one or he is healthy enough.

7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I get it. I just think at this point Dalton is probably even worse than Bryce. A little better arm but absolutely zero mobility. But hell, I'm up for seeing it again. It's tough to be much worse than Bryce was yesterday.

I am up for it if he's healthy. I don't think he can be worse than Bryce simply because Bryce seems to continue to regress each week. He's approaching Gabriel levels and if he keeps regressing you may get sub-Gabriel play. That's nuts to continue.

[asian88]

I don't think it's that he can't read defenses but that he can't see so there is no defense to read

[ProcessBlue2]

8 minutes ago, asian88 said:

I don't think it's that he can't read defenses but that he can't see so there is no defense to read

Him not being able to see is not even a joke anymore. He has to roll out every time. The times he doesn’t is because the pocket collapses and the OL fanned out.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 hours ago, OneBadCat said:

Cam would ball with this offense. Even now. Honestly, I'd love to see if a few years removed from the game has allowed his shoulder to heal. 

Thinking long-term Cam would be crazy to ditch all the stuff he has going on media-wise to give football another go at this point.

[mav1234]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

If he can't or won't bench Bryce then I have no use for him. He's just a yes man.

This is how I feel. When your QB is losing you games you have to bench him. You can't let him keep going.