Okay gentlemen, REAL talk...

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I've argued before in this thread that the early season mediocrity isn't just Bryce.

Very few NFL teams look great all season. Some start slow but get better. Others start strong but fade. The difference is offseason preparation and pacing throughout the aeason.

Under Canales, the whole team comes out of the gate looking like sh-t, but they finish the season looking like winners. His in-season coaching and pacing seems to be solid. The offseason part...not so much

That's why I want them to bring someone aboard who can coach Canales up on his offseason preparation. That includes helping Bryce get up to speed because what we're doing with him now obviously isn't cutting it.

Well we can certainly attest that regardless of Bryce and Canales highs and lows the roster as a whole does have enough talent for us to compete for the division and the playoffs. And the plus side is this is a very young team.

In all honesty yes the Panthers offseasons the last couple of years have been a little too much good vibes only and sunshine and rainbows.

Canales has the potential to be the Panthers head coach for the next several years.

We are seeing the makings of what appears to be a culture shift but unfortunately we're walking a razor thin line between that and full on catastrophe until we can string together consistent convincing wins. I sincerely hope to see it to finish the season.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, frankw said:

Well we can certainly attest that regardless of Bryce and Canales highs and lows the roster as a whole does have enough talent for us to compete for the division and the playoffs. And the plus side is this is a very young team.

In all honesty yes the Panthers offseasons the last couple of years have been a little too much good vibes only and sunshine and rainbows.

Canales has the potential to be the Panthers head coach for the next several years.

We are seeing the makings of what appears to be a culture shift but unfortunately we're walking a razor thin line between that and full on catastrophe until we can string together consistent convincing wins. I sincerely hope to see it to finish the season.

I've been iffy on Canales till now but this season has put me in his corner. He certainly still has areas that need improvement, but I do believe he can be "the guy".

Admittedly, what I had hoped for was a chance to see Canales with a different quarterback. That particular scenario now looks to be, at the very least, a few seasons away.

Gotta say also that we'd be remiss to have an offseason discussion and not reference Dan Morgan and the front office. What I see from there (especially since the addition of Brandt Tilis) is starting to look pretty positive.

Here's hoping... 

[CRA]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Bryce is better than last year; worlds better than the year before.

as a starter (12 games vs 12 games).  Sets up perfectly given the week we fall on. 

2024 - 195 pass yards per game, 20 rush yards per game, 21 TDs, 11 turnovers

2025 - 194 pass yards per game, 10 rush yards per game, 19 TDs, 13 turnovers

that sure looks like less offense and more turnovers this year vs last year as the starting QB.   I mean, you don't have to call it worse.  Not sure how you get better out of it.