Why does Bryce get the blame?

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

It’s wasn’t about agreeing. It was a false statement saying he couldn’t avoid a single sack that game and the OL did their part aside from the 1 sack etc… It’s a fact that one of his OL gave up 5 pressures by himself which proves that wrong. That’s all there is to say about it. 

Now you are admitting you didn’t watch all of it which makes sense.  I think you just got caught and had that whole little meltdown and now continue to drag this out. A simple, “my bad I didn’t watch all the game” would suffice next time. No need for deflections or nonsense babbling. 

Man I've lost all respect for you after this thread.

First you continually try to change what was actually said. The focus of which was Bryce's robotic dropback and subsequent staredown never feeling the pressure from the left that resulted in that lone sack late in the 4th with the game on the line. Then you try to shame someone for working for a living even though I watched the 2nd 3rd and 4th quarter. In your eyes I somehow didn't watch the game at all.

You are shitposting no different than anyone else in this thread or any other thread. Don't try to repackage it and act like you are so above it all.

[ForJimmy]

7 minutes ago, frankw said:

Man I've lost all respect for you after this thread.

First you continually try to change what was actually said. The focus of which was Bryce's robotic dropback and subsequent staredown never feeling the pressure from the left that resulted in that lone sack late in the 4th with the game on the line. Then you try to shame someone for working for a living even though I watched the 2nd 3rd and 4th quarter. In your eyes I somehow didn't watch the game at all.

You are shitposting no different than anyone else in this thread or any other thread. Don't try to repackage it and act like you are so above it all.

It was a bad play from Icky but the OL didn't give up a sack until late in the 4th quarter and Bryce just stood there like he was canatonic. If our 3rd year number one overall pick can't overcome one single sack against a rebuilding Saints team that should only have 2 wins this season then it isn't ever going to happen
 

This is your quote. I mean I’ve quoted it twice. It was followed by calling people that defended him fugers and several other meltdowns I can also quote. 
 

Shame you for working for a living??? Wow this is a whole new level to your victim mentality thing you like to do. You don’t have to watch games live. Or don’t spend an entire thread arguing about something you didn’t get the full picture of. I miss parts of games all the time. That’s just life. Not even going into the whole losing all respect thing.

[frankw]

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

It was a bad play from Icky but the OL didn't give up a sack until late in the 4th quarter and Bryce just stood there like he was canatonic. If our 3rd year number one overall pick can't overcome one single sack against a rebuilding Saints team that should only have 2 wins this season then it isn't ever going to happen
 

This is your quote. I mean I’ve quoted it twice. It was followed by calling people that defended him fugers and several other meltdowns I can also quote. 
 

Shame you for working for a living??? Wow this is a whole new level to your victim mentality thing you like to do. You don’t have to watch games live. Or don’t spend an entire thread arguing about something you didn’t get the full picture of. I miss parts of games all the time. That’s just life. Not even going into the whole losing all respect thing.

The OL officially gave up one sack. That was the one sack. You don't have to like it. You can list off the number of pressures until you're blue in the face it doesn't equal more sacks.

Tyler Shough got pressured and sacked Plenty too.

The result is the result.

[mav1234]

Bryce is slippery but blaming the OL for a loss (which isn't what Jimmy is doing here as far as I can tell) is nuts. Still, Bryce is good at escaping pressure (although arguably he is failing at stepping up in the pocket lately). Ultimately Bryce is good at very little and being good at one thing doesn't overcome the other limitations.

[ForJimmy]

Just now, mav1234 said:

Bryce is slippery but blaming the OL for a loss (which isn't what Jimmy is doing here as far as I can tell) is nuts. Still, Bryce is good at escaping pressure (although arguably he is failing at stepping up in the pocket lately). Ultimately Bryce is good at very little and being good at one thing doesn't overcome the other limitations.

I’m saying Bryce not being able to overcome one sack that game is a bad take. He was a main reason there was only one sack. His blindside LT (who has been great all year) was playing through an injury and it showed (5 pressures allowed by Icky).
If you want to blame Bryce go with he couldn’t attack the middle of the field, he threw it behind TMac on that potential TD allowing the CB to swat it out of his hands, his missed Tremble by a foot on a deep middle route etc… 

[frankw]

Icky getting beat and Bryce having no pocket awareness was the final nail in our missed opportunities to take control of that game. It isn't a take. It's what happened.

Good god.

[Mr. Scot]

11 hours ago, CRA said:

The real trigger is when a bad starting QB is just flat out acknowledging as such and that we should view it as such as we plan forward……is met by people defending Bryce for never ending pages/posts. 

THAT is unlike anything we ever seen. 

we should be able to say, yeah, we need to move on from that and then go about our business of talking the rest off the team, how to win today given what we have and talk about the future.  

Thanks for illustrating my point. 

No one in the last several pages of this discussion is suggesting we should hang on to him, but anytime someone says anything less than "take him out back and shoot him" you act like they are.

That's either you not understanding what you're reading or just being a nimrod because you can't keep up.

(I would have said 'or just sh-tposting' but you're way too emotional on this topic for that)

Either way, the result is the same

Edited 8 hours ago by Mr. Scot

[frankw]

1 hour ago, mav1234 said:

(although arguably he is failing at stepping up in the pocket lately).

This is one of my key concerns lost in the sauce that is the neverending conversation about him evading pressure and the OL. Eventually any QB is going to have to step up into the pocket and show the defense they can still beat them even if they get through. We have a limited QB who cannot consistently do this and as such we are relegated to going back and forth about how successful he was at evading pressure but we have little else to write home about. Tyler Shough stepped up into the pocket and made plays despite being pressured and sacked. He's played in about 35 less games than Bryce Young. That is a problem. And isn't just going to go away. The Bucs are going to do the same thing after watching the film.

[Mr. Scot]

11 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Because we've been gaslit for 3 years by every little thing he does that isn't terrible.  That's why.  Its pretty simple.

Who's gaslighting?

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, frankw said:

I watched most of the game I had to work part of the day.

It's interesting you think anyone who doesn't automatically agree with you didn't actually watch the games.

Yet you accuse others of talking out their ass.

Some taking part in the discussion here have admitted to not actually watching the game. 

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, frankw said:

Page after page after page after page of boosting him up but you don't actually think he's the answer.

ForJimmy is a Mr. Scot clone.

He has his own mind. 

The one thing we agree on is we don't like dumb reasoning, even if it comes to the same ultimate conclusion.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, mav1234 said:

Bryce is slippery but blaming the OL for a loss (which isn't what Jimmy is doing here as far as I can tell) is nuts. Still, Bryce is good at escaping pressure (although arguably he is failing at stepping up in the pocket lately). Ultimately Bryce is good at very little and being good at one thing doesn't overcome the other limitations.

Pretty sure he's led us in rushing more than once.

[CRA]

23 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Thanks for illustrating my point. 

No one in the last several pages of this discussion is suggesting we should hang on to him, but anytime someone says anything less than "take him out back and shoot him" you act like they are.

That's either you not understanding what you're reading or just being a nimrod because you can't keep up.

(I would have said 'or just sh-tposting' but you're way too emotional on this topic for that)

Either way, the result is the same

Nah, you are just wanting to argue everyone is wrong while pretending to own no real position.  It’s what you do.  It’s old hat. 

and it’s why they shouldn’t of compared Jimmy to you 

[frankw]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Some taking part in the discussion here have admitted to not actually watching the game. 

 

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

He has his own mind. 

The one thing we agree on is we don't like dumb reasoning, even if it comes to the same ultimate conclusion.

If they did I didn't see it. But at the end of the day this team is not going to get more eyes on the product on the field getting swept by the Saints with the division and playoffs on the line.

As far as people forming their own opinions and conclusions. I can and will debate in good faith with anyone that is willing to listen and engage and I will try to give someone the benefit of the doubt. But when someone assigns designations onto others such as not being legitimate fans or being the problem holding the franchise back because they aren't singing the company tune to their liking 24/7 that is where I will push back because this franchise is what it is. But it is not a perennial contender where people can draw a line in the sand and tell people they aren't real fans. But that's what I've seen recently and given what's transpired it's even more egregious because the fans want a winner. But if the Panthers can't or won't step up and take it that is on them. The fans are not to blame for it.