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Official Week 18: Panthers @ Buccaneers Gameday Thread


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I still can't believe they tried a flee flicker on a wet rainy field! They waited too late to get Young in hurry up mode! I think he is better when he is in hurry up mode. I am not sure Bryce Young is our franchise QB.  The offense needs to stay on the field more and keep drives going because our defense is tired! I saw a very tired defense out there and i still think we need to start wrapping up tackles better, they keep giving up too many yards after contact and first downs when they had a stop if they would have wrapped up the tackle.

I think those are some of the reasons we lost. We didn't see many runs by our qb either which has helped win us some games or continue drives!

 

Bryce is showing progress and i think he would be a fine backup but we need a QB!

I think we need better offensive play calling and do a better job of hiding what we are doing pre-snap.

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1 hour ago, Montsta said:

What a pathetic performance with playoffs on the line. Absolutely pathetic from every single player on the team. Anyone that has the fuging balls to cash their check isn’t a real fuging man, they are an embarrassment to their families. If I was a player on this team I would go full feudal Japan hari Kari and gut myself at the 50 yard line in an attempt to regain honor for my family. 
 

Edit: except Tet. He actually looks like an NFL player. 

Not Brown. 

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4 minutes ago, exspfx said:

I still can't believe they tried a flee flicker on a wet rainy field! 

I still say the more offensive/horrific part is they called a flea flicker from the 20?????

it’s a deep pass trick play.  Canales refused to address how it was supposed to set up a pass up in the freaking redzone.  Claimed he couldn’t address it given we might play again lmao 

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1 minute ago, CRA said:

I still say the more offensive/horrific part is they called a flea flicker from the 20?????

it’s a deep pass trick play.  Canales refused to address how it was supposed to set up a pass up in the freaking redzone.  Claimed he couldn’t address it given we might play again lmao 

Had it marked as a play to run from the 20...and called it from the wrong 20. Too much pride to admit the mistake. Bryce should have changed the play or Rico should have just ran. A JV player knows you dont run that play with so little room.

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1 minute ago, jopie87 said:

Had it marked as a play to run from the 20...and called it from the wrong 20. Too much pride to admit the mistake. Bryce should have changed the play or Rico should have just ran. A JV player knows you dont run that play with so little room.

Maybe that’s it.  That might make sense. Because it makes ZERO sense.  And Canales’ logic of why he couldn’t explain it means there is clearly someone who fugged up.  Either he isn’t man enough to take his error on the chin or is protecting a player (Bryce/Rico), 

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3 minutes ago, Montsta said:

Brown gets a pass anyway because he’s been balling out all year. 

He's the only guy on defense earning his money. He was tossing guys around like tackling dummies to stop RBs in their tracks. 

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55 minutes ago, fanpanther said:

i have a different take the fact that dc could get 8 wins this year with byoung at qb basically says the rest of thr team is actually good give this team a halfway decent qb and easily 10 wins this year and in the playoffs no question.  i really feel one halfway decent qb from being competitive.  mac jones...

That’s a fair take

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1 hour ago, DC Amp said:

Imagine if we had a quarterback this past year where we would be now, say maybe like a Jared Goff? I can dream a bit. May be the beer talking, who knows

 

Or say a Drake Maye...who was totally in our reach.

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