So why was Canales hired again?

[UnluckyforSome]

He said yes.

[kungfoodude]

7 hours ago, jfra78 said:

He's a QB whisperer but Young can't be saved

This was always false. He has never been a QB whisperer.

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

Because he sold Tepper the same snake oil that good ole Fatt Fhule used to trick Tepper into hiring him...

This is 100% accurate. This is twice that a polished, used car salesman has rooked him.

He loves some psuedo religious BS, I suppose. 

[kungfoodude]

11 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

I’ve been saying this. Dave is supposed to be an “offensive” head coach when our offense absolutely sucks ass. After two full years I still don’t know what our offensive identity is. We are certainly not a running team (we want to be). The only thing we do well is the 0-5 yard passing game. Never in my wildest dreams did I think I would focus and be happy if our qb had a game over 200 yards because it was so rare. Dave had ONE year of play calling and he wasn’t good that year! 

If it isn't obvious to everyone that Dave is as much of the issue with the TEAM(not franchise, that's a different discussion) as Bryce, I just don't know how much more he has to do to convince people. But, this place still has people that believe in Bryce Young, so I guess the "hope springs eternal" crowd will continue to ignore the mountain of exceedingly obvious flaws that Canales has as both a head coach and play caller.

And before the "hE's LiMiTeD bY bRyCe" crowd starts getting whipped into a frenzy, Bryce ain't the reason we suck at preparation, playcalling, in game adjustments, personnel management, etc.

Canales would hamper us enough on his own even if he weren't saddled with a middle school QB.

[cranky]

22 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Because any decent HC wouldn't tie themselves to both Bryce and Tepper. 

Also Steichen's poor interview was from a Panther's leak so he probably just told them the truth and that was labeled 'poor' also known as correct in better organizations.

Bryce didn't have a bad game? Have you seen the offense required to have him under center? Lol. 14 points lol

Guess you didn't see the run game yesterday, or last week, or the week before that, or the week before that, etc, etc.

In the last seven games, Rico has 288 yrds and 1 TD and Hubbard has 188 and O tds. That's 476 total yards and 1 td over the last 7 games. That's 68 yrds per game with only 1 td. Heck Bryce almost has as many yards rushing (134 ) as Hubbard and has as many rushing tds ( 1 ) as Rico and Hubbard combined over that period.

Given the Bucs had the worst run game in the NFL under Canales, I would have to say the run game struggles here are just a reflection of Canales' weakness in that area. 

 

[thennek]

Tepper has a terrible reputation and at the time just fired a HC after 10-games. He has burned through several HC in his tenure as our beloved owner. When there are better options available, a qualified HC is not going to choose Carolina. This is why the top names were never an option for the Panthers. 
Canales is now set for life….and Tepper will just keep churning coaches as he strives to end”mediocrity’. The irony is since he has been the owner, the Panthers have been one of the worst teams in the NFL and being mediocre would be an upgrade 

[Johnstonny]

18 minutes ago, thennek said:

Tepper has a terrible reputation and at the time just fired a HC after 10-games. He has burned through several HC in his tenure as our beloved owner. When there are better options available, a qualified HC is not going to choose Carolina. This is why the top names were never an option for the Panthers. 
Canales is now set for life….and Tepper will just keep churning coaches as he strives to end”mediocrity’. The irony is since he has been the owner, the Panthers have been one of the worst teams in the NFL and being mediocre would be an upgrade 

The one good part, Dipper is willing to throw big money at coaches. The bad part is once a decent coach meets his egotistical megalomaniac azz they just say oh hell no. They tell him the truth of what it is and then he labels them as a poor candidate. And lets be honest, DM hasn't done him any favors. 

[raleigh-panther]

47 minutes ago, cranky said:

Guess you didn't see the run game yesterday, or last week, or the week before that, or the week before that, etc, etc.

In the last seven games, Rico has 288 yrds and 1 TD and Hubbard has 188 and O tds. That's 476 total yards and 1 td over the last 7 games. That's 68 yrds per game with only 1 td. Heck Bryce almost has as many yards rushing (134 ) as Hubbard and has as many rushing tds ( 1 ) as Rico and Hubbard combined over that period.

Given the Bucs had the worst run game in the NFL under Canales, I would have to say the run game struggles here are just a reflection of Canales' weakness in that area. 

 

Canales isn’t the answer.  Neither is Young 

the more tape the nfl has on the. Panthers offense the more it fails

[Waldo]

46 minutes ago, cranky said:

Guess you didn't see the run game yesterday, or last week, or the week before that, or the week before that, etc, etc.

In the last seven games, Rico has 288 yrds and 1 TD and Hubbard has 188 and O tds. That's 476 total yards and 1 td over the last 7 games. That's 68 yrds per game with only 1 td. Heck Bryce almost has as many yards rushing (134 ) as Hubbard and has as many rushing tds ( 1 ) as Rico and Hubbard combined over that period.

Given the Bucs had the worst run game in the NFL under Canales, I would have to say the run game struggles here are just a reflection of Canales' weakness in that area. 

 

Yeah it's all you have to really focus on which is the point. Good QBs take advantage of that and for Bryce it's 266 yards. If you don't see the larger pattern then that's on you. The offensive is one dimensional with Bryce and it's the run game. 

The Saints figured it out and all you have to do is stop the run to shut a Young led offense down. 

Thr only thing that I wonder about is why the rest of the leuge didn't already know this all year long. In a passing leuge blaming the run for a poor non rookie QB is pathetic loser mentality...which is a big chunk of why the team is 0-3 with Bryce.

[djp14]

Because nobody else wanted the job.

[Jackson113.2]

I bet Cucknalas got a hell of a porn stash...

[Bear Hands]

He was part of Morgan’s network and was honestly the most promising guy willing to come here. Macdonald was my preference but he had his eyes set. Steichen was possible but we screwed that up in the Reich cycle.

DC has been a part of good orgs, and worked his way into the big leagues with Pete. So some good ideas, philosophies, decent coaching approach come with him. But his actual implementation and decision making has been weak.

[mrcompletely11]

1 hour ago, raleigh-panther said:

Canales isn’t the answer.  Neither is Young 

the more tape the nfl has on the. Panthers offense the more it fails

2025 we have averaged 18 a game.   15 the last 3 games.  The teams below us, tenn, vegas, jets, NO, browns.  Thats brutal with a 3rd year #1 pick

2024 we averaged 20 a game and 30 for the last 3 games.   Same teams below us for the most part.

 

teams have figured this bullshit out

[hepcat]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

2025 we have averaged 18 a game.   15 the last 3 games.  The teams below us, tenn, vegas, jets, NO, browns.  Thats brutal with a 3rd year #1 pick

2024 we averaged 20 a game and 30 for the last 3 games.   Same teams below us for the most part.

 

teams have figured this bullshit out

I think taking Legette off the field and getting a speedy receiver to replace him would help the offense immensely. I thought Legette was an awful pick to begin with but I think he ended up being a huge detriment to the offense in the long run. Stone hands and no spatial awareness. Won’t be in the NFL in two years.