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5 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

In all fairness, and I do not know a whole bunch about the Browns and how they operate, but he got them to the playoffs twice, which in Cleveland is akin to a lunar landing mission.

They gave Sefanski a stacked roster but him, Berry and Feech La Mana decided to mortgage the entire future for a perv.

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4 minutes ago, Johnstonny said:

They gave Sefanski a stacked roster but him, Berry and Feech La Mana decided to mortgage the entire future for a perv.

They've had trouble finding a replacement for Bernie Kosar for a while. Their troubles outdate Watson by a couple of decades, not that it excuses that contract or pursuit.

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12 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

They've had trouble finding a replacement for Bernie Kosar for a while. Their troubles outdate Watson by a couple of decades, not that it excuses that contract or pursuit.

Well, to be fair, the Browns that Kosar played for now goes by the name Baltimore Ravens.  The current version of the Browns has no resemblance of the previous version other than the name and uniforms.

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1 minute ago, Gregg S said:

Well, to be fair, the Browns that Kosar played for now goes by the name Baltimore Ravens.  The current version of the Browns has no resemblance of the previous version other than the name and uniforms.

Not exactly. When Modell packed up and moved to Baltimore, it was stipulated that the name, colors and far more crucially, the history and records would remain in Cleveland for when they received a new team. Personally, I think they should've dropped the name and colors, but that's me. History and records however absolutely did not travel on down to Baltimore. True story.

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2 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

I can't imagine the drunken chaotic altercations at Waffle House inside a NFL stadium on Sundays. Every building would have to come with a judge and jail like in Philadelphia.

 

Inside stadiums? First thought is hash browns, chunked and covered, $15.  

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57 minutes ago, TD alt said:

What has Stefanski done that would warrant replacing Canales with him? Stefanski has had a long run, and a I'm not sure how much juice he actually had in personnel decisions and the like, but he's been a part of a dumpster fire arguably more intense than what we've experienced.

He’s won coach of the year twice 

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1 hour ago, UnluckyforSome said:

They've had trouble finding a replacement for Bernie Kosar for a while. Their troubles outdate Watson by a couple of decades, not that it excuses that contract or pursuit.

I know only too well the history of the Browns.

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Stefanski is the most overrated coach in the league, go look at his track record with QBs. Cousins got better once he left, Watson got worse, Baker got better after he left Cleveland. They win cause of that defense 

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6 minutes ago, Johnstonny said:

I know only too well the history of the Browns.

That is very cool. Whether you like Watson and his associated deal, or don't like him and think it was the worst thing ever, it is entirely your opinion, and some people will agree with you, and some will not, and some may not have much of an opinion at all. 

It is a little short-sighted to blame their problems exclusively on Watson, and probably a bit unnecessary to tie a coach to that entire thing. Certainly, that mistake is looming very large. I don't know a bunch about how the Browns operate, but typically a coach is not out there pursuing free agents, negotiating deals and orchestrating trades, but the Browns could be unique in that, and maybe that explains some of their problems. 

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