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Dan Morgan: Panthers will pickup BY’s 5th year.

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10 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

I just listed 4 QBs that are better than Young that are making less, combined, than his 5th year option.

This year we have the chance to go out and sign Howell, Lance, Minshew and Willis. We of course won't because we don't want to hurt Bryce's feelings.

Laughable. Literally not one of those quarterbacks is better than Young. Howell and Minshew just aren't starter quality. Lance and Willis are athletic busts that can maybe provide a flash in a pan for a game or two, but haven't shown any indication they can be the guy for a full season.

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1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

I don't think any of those guys are accepting a contract to backup Bryce Young. It's insulting. 

But if you're looking at pure backup role offers like those guys will be, it's a decent opportunity. I mean, Bryce has faltered before to the point that he got benched. He started out awfully again this season and if we'd had a decent backup I'm not sure he would've gotten back on the field. 

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1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

I don't think any of those guys are accepting a contract to backup Bryce Young. It's insulting. 

Why do some of you always post with hyperbole.

Most of them suck at this point.   

And Willis is probably getting a similar contract to the 5th year option for BY.

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9 minutes ago, t96 said:

The 5th year option is guaranteed for injury only, so unless he gets hurt he can still be released/traded with no cap implications. Not really that much risk there. But barring a true breakout year next year, if Bryce is starting for us in his 5th year I will be extremely disappointed with this team. His limitations are just way too significant to overcome in the NFL.

https://overthecap.com/collective-bargaining-agreement/article/7/section/7

Is it at the start of the season or league year(March)? I am not 100% clear reading the language.

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For any player drafted with any selection (1-32) in the first round of the 2016 or 2017 Drafts, the entire Paragraph 5 Salary for the Fifth-Year Option shall be guaranteed for injury-related termination only, effective upon the Club’s exercise of the Option. The entire Paragraph 5 Salary for the Fifth-Year Option shall be guaranteed for skill, injury, and Salary Cap-related termination if the player is on his Club’s active roster (Active List) at the start of the player’s fifth League Year (i.e., the option year).

 

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2 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

Laughable. Literally not one of those quarterbacks is better than Young. Howell and Minshew just aren't starter quality. Lance and Willis are athletic busts that can maybe provide a flash in a pan for a game or two, but haven't shown any indication they can be the guy for a full season.

Why don't you apply those same standards to Young?

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

But if you're looking at pure backup role offers like those guys will be, it's a decent opportunity. I mean, Bryce has faltered before to the point that he got benched. He started out awfully again this season and if we'd had a decent backup I'm not sure he would've gotten back on the field. 

If I'm their agents I look at the clusterfug in Charlotte and steer my client well away.

We've never had a legitimate QB competition in the time Young has been here and they've just promised to give him $27m after 3 years of inept play.

I don't say to my client "well when he falters again you'll get a chance" because I don't honestly believe that to be the case.

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7 minutes ago, DeadpoolPanther said:

Dan pretty much said in a politically correct GM way what most everyone is saying, let’s not jump into long term contract talk yet, let’s pick up his option and keep the relationship good and see how it goes next year.

Pretty reasonable outlook on it, let’s hope that’s correct. 

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

name the 3 year starters that he has been better than

Penix/Cousins

Fields

McCarthy

Ward

Tua

Murray/Brissett

Geno Smith

 

His good games have been elite level.  His bad games have been barely worth of a roster.

 

That's inconsistency.   Give him another year to see if he can level that out.  If not, move on.  

 

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3 minutes ago, jamos14 said:

Penix/Cousins

Fields

McCarthy

Ward

Tua

Murray/Brissett

Geno Smith

 

His good games have been elite level.  His bad games have been barely worth of a roster.

 

That's inconsistency.   Give him another year to see if he can level that out.  If not, move on.  

 

This is where I'm at as well. 

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so u or anyone can just ook at Bryce Young's #'s & tell that he is in fact one of the worst statistically speaking starting Qbs in the NFL .so Dan Morgan would have to obvisouly think at this point that Bryce Young still has not reached his ceiling ? 

ladies & gents there is an alarming pattern here of just one project after the next whether it be  a very raw XL, DJ Johnson ,or Trevin Wallace , a RB with a torn ACL or one of the smallest players in the entire NFL with supposedly a super processor the list goes on & on where the Panthers have invested ALOT & got little in return from developing these players that they thought had high upsides 

when you start paying players based solely  off of potential rather than production then that's just bad buisness..just saying

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2 minutes ago, jamos14 said:

Penix/Cousins

Fields

McCarthy

Ward

Tua

Murray/Brissett

Geno Smith

 

His good games have been elite level.  His bad games have been barely worth of a roster.

 

That's inconsistency.   Give him another year to see if he can level that out.  If not, move on.  

 

I see 2 2nd year players, 1 rookie, disagree about Geno, strongly, Murray is way better than Young and they still want to move on, but hey I will give you Tua.  So yeah my point stands

 

28 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Hes been objectively one of the worst qbs in the nfl for 3 years now

 

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