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Dan Morgan open to bringing in younger QB to develop/compete for backup role

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1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

I personally don't believe Tepper has changed that much. The only thing new is his stepping back from the public eyes as much as he can. I guess you could add exhibiting a bit my restraint or should I say patience with this crew. But that will only last so l9ng as a leopard don't change his spots. He will fire everyone if they only win 5 games next season. 

The positive side is that we likely have between 10-15 years more of Tepper at max. This will eventually end. Who knows what that chapter will entail?

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

The positive side is that we likely have between 10-15 years more of Tepper at max. This will eventually end. Who knows what that chapter will entail?

His wife will take over, if she hasn't already. 

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18 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Ive never seen a qb with his kind of arm talent willfully seek out out not just contact, but head first contact. Like baker will seek out DBs to put his shoulder into. Dart dives like a tackling defender in NFL blitz 98.

He had good coaches in his college career, and Mike Kafka is not a dumb guy. Surely there have been attempts to get him to stop and he’s always just like “yolo bitch”

Dart and Skattabo together will be both of their downfalls. They're just going to feed off each other's stupidity and immaturity until they're head butting more CTE into each other in their assisted living facilities. 

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28 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

His wife will take over, if she hasn't already. 

We will see. The details on her are as scarce as they come. I am not convinced she is a true football/sports fan. She seems more like a stereotypical rich wife type that seems to be more socially active than actually truly interested in the team. 

I am not personally getting an Irsay daughters vibe. That is a third generation of NFL ownership, so it's literally in their bloodline to an extent. 

That's not my personal read on Nicole.

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10 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

We will see. The details on her are as scarce as they come. I am not convinced she is a true football/sports fan. She seems more like a stereotypical rich wife type that seems to be more socially active than actually truly interested in the team. 

I am not personally getting an Irsay daughters vibe. That is a third generation of NFL ownership, so it's literally in their bloodline to an extent. 

That's not my personal read on Nicole.

The hope is that she'd hire football people and just smile and wave to the crowd.

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3 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

The hope is that she'd hire football people and just smile and wave to the crowd.

I mean, honestly, I would just rather have a good NFL owner. She still has to make big decisions on who those football people are. If you fug that up right out of the gate, it's all lost.

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41 minutes ago, PanthersNCSU said:

Dart and Skattabo together will be both of their downfalls. They're just going to feed off each other's stupidity and immaturity until they're head butting more CTE into each other in their assisted living facilities. 

I don’t know how much I’d count on skattaboo playing again. Like yeah it’s just a broken bone but his feet were pointing at 12 and 6, respectably. 

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If Tepp did not like and still believe in BY, BY would be gone… AND/OR it was a Tepper pick the entire time and he does not want to look like the neophyte he is. Tepper has shown 0 reservations on canning people he doesn’t believe in, but yet BY still remains?  

 There was no way any legitimate QB competition would be televised for Panthers Nation to see. Imagine the optics:  Bryce comes out the first series or 2, throws his usual ducks against the first string D. Next QB comes in and doesn’t necessarily look great, but he connects on a few 30 yard lasers. The team knew that Dalton would pose no threat so he was allowed to stay. 

Tepp can close training camp to the public, he can control the propaganda machine and ‘media’ coverage, but he can’t control the televised games where the 2nd and 3rd string QBs play almost the entire time. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

If Tepp did not like and still believe in BY, BY would be gone… AND/OR it was a Tepper pick the entire time and he does not want to look like the neophyte he is. Tepper has shown 0 reservations on canning people he doesn’t believe in, but yet BY still remains?  

 There was no way any legitimate QB competition would be televised for Panthers Nation to see. Imagine the optics:  Bryce comes out the first series or 2, throws his usual ducks against the first string D. Next QB comes in and doesn’t necessarily look great, but he connects on a few 30 yard lasers. The team knew that Dalton would pose no threat so he was allowed to stay. 

Tepp can close training camp to the public, he can control the propaganda machine and ‘media’ coverage, but he can’t control the televised games where the 2nd and 3rd string QBs play almost the entire time. 

 

In what world does Jack Plummer get brought into training camp in back to back seasons? If he wasn't good enough once, he's not going to be good enough the second go round. There's plenty of Plummers out there. Pick one. 

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David Tepper who completely went out of his way to wax poetic to anyone that would listen about how generational of a talent Bryce Young was once upon a time is still very much reeling from the trade to #1 and everything that it cost compared to the returns. And you can bet your ass he's very sour seeing the combination of the #1 pick we traded and DJ Moore winning a playoff game in an NFL city that is anything but a breeze to be successful in. Add in the egg he has on his face from having both Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield on the roster and seeing them have success elsewhere and you get what you get now which is David Tepper hellbent on keeping the Bryce Young experiment going until the very bitter end.

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1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

I personally don't believe Tepper has changed that much. The only thing new is his stepping back from the public eyes as much as he can. I guess you could add exhibiting a bit my restraint or should I say patience with this crew. But that will only last so long as a leopard don't change his spots. He will fire everyone if they only win 5 games next season. 

Yeah, I don't believe the Tepper-not-involved-anymore line. He has just learned to operate a bit more discreetly and not throw drinks on people.

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