Big Ben on drafting a QB and roster building

[NAS]

4 hours ago, strato said:

The Bryce stanning is relentless. 
 

Cam’s team won two games the previous season and legit was picking 1st.
Bryce’s team won 7 games the previous season and was actually in playoff contention. And legit earned the 9th overall pick. 

If anything made that team worse in 2023 than in 2022 it was Bryce. Come on.

And missing DJ, I’ll concede that.  
 

Did someone mention Bryce?

[strato]

1 hour ago, NAS said:

Did someone mention Bryce?

There is an attempt to paint Bryce as having a much tougher path vs Cam. 2011 vs 2023 teams. Makes Young look better.  

 I thought it was pretty clear, especially when you look at where it is coming from. I reject it, as usual.  

[XClown1986]

1 hour ago, strato said:

There is an attempt to paint Bryce as having a much tougher path vs Cam. 2011 vs 2023 teams. Makes Young look better.  

 I thought it was pretty clear, especially when you look at where it is coming from. I reject it, as usual.  

Say what you want about easier paths or whatever, but Cam did have some of the most prolific players in Panthers history on his offense in 2011. Jordan Gross, Ryan Kalil, Steve Smith, Greg Olsen, DeAngelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart

Bryce had... Taylor Moton? 

So... Yeah.

And this isnt a knock on Cam at all. He elevated this team. It's a knock on Jimmy Clausen. Dude was balls.

Edited 29 minutes ago by XClown1986

[Loyalty4Life]

There isn't a right way.  You take advantage of the opportunities you have.  

Finding the right mix is almost an art form or luck.  Right situation, right GM, right coach, right players.  

With as much money as the NFL has, if there was a way to build a successful team every team would be trying to build the same way.  

Ben is just leaning into his bias because that was how it worked with him and he had great success.  

[strato]

18 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

Say what you want about easier paths or whatever, but Cam did have some of the most prolific players in Panthers history on his offense in 2011. Jordan Gross, Ryan Kalil, Steve Smith, Greg Olsen, DeAngelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart

Bryce had... Taylor Moton? 

So... Yeah.

And this isnt a knock on Cam at all. He elevated this team. It's a knock on Jimmy Clausen. Dude was balls.

I guess. Can’t dispute the roster that’s for sure. 
I would say that Bryce pretty much = Clausen plus 10% as far as that goes. With Cam being exponentially better than Both. 

 

 

[XClown1986]

1 minute ago, strato said:

I guess. Can’t dispute the roster that’s for sure. 
I would say that Bryce pretty much = Clausen plus 10% as far as that goes. With Cam being exponentially better than Both. 

 

 

Cam is an exponentially better football player. No question.

But saying Bryce is in the same conversation as Clausen? Go back and watch Jimmy again bro. Not even close.

[strato]

2 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

Cam is an exponentially better football player. No question.

But saying Bryce is in the same conversation as Clausen? Go back and watch Jimmy again bro. Not even close.

You watched that abomination that was Bryce Young in 2023? I gave him 10%. Make it 20% if it makes you feel better.  Horrible is horrible. 
 

If either one was a piece of food you would spit them both out. 

Edited just now by strato