Ocho says Leggette is coming to see him

[MHS831]

aside from a roster spot, we don't benefit by cutting him. 

[Swaggasaurus]

He don’t need to learn how to be Chad Johnson. He needs to learn how to be Keyshawn Johnson. Get your frame between the defender and the ball. Attack the ball and get first downs.  These MF DB’s are going to own XL in everything else.

[tukafan21]

8 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I see what you are saying, but I would counter by saying the feet are part of the mental side of his game.  And you say  the same thing here--about his field awareness. 

Yes, you need to be mentally aware of your feet, but when someone is talking about having "great feet", I look at that as having quick/good footwork that makes you a great WR due to route running.

And sure, the first two easy/obvious examples that pop to my mind for XL when I think of his poor mental side of the game this are both feet related (the stepping out of bounds and the crossing route where he only got 1 foot down despite all sorts of room to get two), there are so many others that had nothing to do with his feet this year.

Things like how often he runs back towards the LOS trying to make a play, his route running mistakes, particularly against zone, at times appearing to have no idea what the play was, etc.  Even that other thread tonight about his interview with Cam, where he said he doesn't talk to Bryce off the field as much as he should, is more proof of his terrible mental side of the game for his preparation and it clearly carries over into Sundays where he has no on field mental awareness.

I'm just not sure there are many (any?) examples of players who were so bad at this part of the game 7 years into their post HS career and then found a way to figure it out.  You can fix a lot of things in a player, but it's hard to take someone with absolutely zero football awareness and correct it at this point in their career.

I do still think XL has a future in this league, but as a Cordarelle Patterson type, who get some handoffs, some easy catches on screens, and returns kicks.  Things where it's just give him the ball and tell him to run as fast and hard as he can straight ahead.  The problem is usually when players shift into totally different roles like that, it's not with the team that drafted them, it's the next team that benefits.

[bythenbrs]

11 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

Things where it's just give him the ball and tell him to run as fast and hard as he can straight ahead. 

[DeAngelo Beason]

Ocho seems extremely confident that XL has the tools.  I agree. 

I still maintain that Bryce is making Legette look bad.  Just watch the tape.  His ball placement when throwing to Legette is abhorrent.  They have no chemistry.  It's on the QB to establish timing and he has yet to do so with XL. Receivers get "cold", and that's happened to Legette a few times where when he finally gets a decent ball thrown his way and he drops it. It's not an excuse per se, but it's very much the reality.  I've seen the best WRs in the league suffer the same fate when they aren't able to establish a rhythm.  

If Bryce and XL sort out their timing, Legette is legitimately the most dangerous player on the team.  

[XClown1986]

52 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Ocho seems extremely confident that XL has the tools.  I agree. 

I still maintain that Bryce is making Legette look bad.  Just watch the tape.  His ball placement when throwing to Legette is abhorrent.  They have no chemistry.  It's on the QB to establish timing and he has yet to do so with XL. Receivers get "cold", and that's happened to Legette a few times where when he finally gets a decent ball thrown his way and he drops it. It's not an excuse per se, but it's very much the reality.  I've seen the best WRs in the league suffer the same fate when they aren't able to establish a rhythm.  

If Bryce and XL sort out their timing, Legette is legitimately the most dangerous player on the team.  

He has a shitty attitude and a poor work ethic. The chemistry is off because he isn't trying to establish chemistry with Bryce. He has had plenty of balls hit him in the hands and he just drops it and getting "cold" is possible for a series or maybe a game. He was that way the whole season. That's on him.

Cam called XL out before the season started with the workout videos he was putting out. Said he didn't care about the grunting and the routes on air. He asked if he could be reliable. And he hasn't been.

Edited 1 hour ago by XClown1986

[DeAngelo Beason]

4 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

He has a shitty attitude and a poor work ethic. The chemistry is off because he isn't trying to establish chemistry with Bryce. He has had plenty of balls hit him in the hands and he just drops it and getting "cold" is possible for a series or maybe a game. He was that way the whole season. That's on him.

Cam called XL out before the season started with the workout videos he was putting out. Said he didn't care about the grunting and the routes on air. He asked if he could be reliable. And he hasn't been.

We'll see.  It's not looking good for him right now, but I know if you actually watch the tape XL is getting himself wide open very frequently.  Like more than anyone on the team.  That's the hardest thing to do as a receiver.  The other things come with timing and repetition, which neither Bryce nor XL have managed to establish with each other.