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Canales handing over playcalling duties


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Kaye’s Take: In the rush to blame one or the other, I think the missing thought for most is that maybe it’s BOTH Dave Canales and Bryce Young who aren’t performing consistently well as a tandem partnership together.

When it’s great (ATL/DAL), it’s great, but it’s rarely great. Typically, it’s bad (SF/NE/NO) or fine (MIA/NYJ/ATL WK3).

If you’re management or ownership, I’m not sure how you can watch these first 12 games and say this is a sustainable workflow. Sure, they’ll probably go and have another big one in the next five games but that’s a 20% firework, not a rocket ship.

The #Panthers are a 6-6 slinky of a team because consistency can’t be forged when chemistry is fleeting and fledging.

One way or another, there needs to be changes to offensive infrastructure (fwiw that’s life in an NFL offseason anyway). Even if a playoff run happens, the whole point of this slower, thoughtful process (which does have merit) is to not overachieve, accept, and then sink.

The team has done a lot of things well behind the scenes and they have generally improved in a lot of areas on the field (defense - talent and coaching, development, rookie class, etc), but you can’t just put your head in the sand
https://x.com/mike_e_kaye/status/1993354173640065364?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

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Just now, TheSpecialJuan said:

Kaye’s Take: In the rush to blame one or the other, I think the missing thought for most is that maybe it’s BOTH Dave Canales and Bryce Young who aren’t performing consistently well as a tandem partnership together.

When it’s great (ATL/DAL), it’s great, but it’s rarely great. Typically, it’s bad (SF/NE/NO) or fine (MIA/NYJ/ATL WK3).

If you’re management or ownership, I’m not sure how you can watch these first 12 games and say this is a sustainable workflow. Sure, they’ll probably go and have another big one in the next five games but that’s a 20% firework, not a rocket ship.

The #Panthers are a 6-6 slinky of a team because consistency can’t be forged when chemistry is fleeting and fledging.

One way or another, there needs to be changes to offensive infrastructure (fwiw that’s life in an NFL offseason anyway). Even if a playoff run happens, the whole point of this slower, thoughtful process (which does have merit) is to not overachieve, accept, and then sink.

The team has done a lot of things well behind the scenes and they have generally improved in a lot of areas on the field (defense - talent and coaching, development, rookie class, etc), but you can’t just put your head in the sand
https://x.com/mike_e_kaye/status/1993354173640065364?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

Update: They didn’t stay static with offensive process even with a playoff berth.
https://x.com/mike_e_kaye/status/2026374014927552793?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I am not saying you are right or even wrong I just think its an odd set up and I cannot recall anything similar in the nfl.  I am sure there has been something like this but its certainly not common.

Yeah the Bevell thing is weird but it’s nice to have his experience for our younger offensive staff. I’m just glad DC isn’t calling plays because that was a lot for him at this point in his career and he wasn’t that good at it honestly. 

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I think it’s clear that Canales is doing a few things here:

1) Backing off from Bryce. Less accountability if there is regression.

2) Putting Bevell in place behind Idzik so he can spend more time with Evero. 
 

The second one is important because Capers isn’t there anymore, Evero has to stand on his own and Canales has no excuse not to evaluate him. If Defense struggles, Canales has to pull the plug. And put Wash or somebody in.

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2 hours ago, hepcat said:

If Bryce Young can start throwing rainbows like vintage Russell Wilson did under Bevell and Canales I don’t give a sh*t who calls the plays 

God I hated those fuging chuck ups so much. Should have been interceptions but consistently caught by his wr. The horseshoe was so deep up that cucks ass it was infuriating.

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This is good on many accounts. We've talked about his game management skills and being overwhelmed trying to do too much. 

We've talked about his inconsistent offense and how maybe it would be better if someone else was the oc. 

We also saw how bad idziks offense was in the preseason. 

This move along with bevels hire addresses all of this. 

They know they can't back into the playoffs with a losing record again. They are actively trying to improve. 

Will it work? TBD. But they are definitely trying and seem to have a plan

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