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13 hours ago, rebelrouser said:

What is going on? That is the third player that had a longer arm length than the combine.  That is either players gaming their proday or someone messed up at the combine.  

Id think its certainly Pro Day" home field advantage". 

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24 minutes ago, PanthersNCSU said:

If we can't trade down from 19, I think Dan is trading up in the 2nd for one of the LBs. I don't see him sitting at 51 and hoping Rodriguez or Hill falls with the hard-on he (and most of us) have for them. 

I think he likes the Cincinnati LB too.  

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23 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

Unless we trade up from our 2nd, Hill Jr./CJ Allen will likely be gone if we don't go ILB in 1...

Rodriguez could end up going high as well, but regardless, him, Golday, Louis, Trotter, & Lawson are who I'd have my eyes on for us. I firmly believe we are trying to find that guy next to Lloyd.  

It still is a very prominent need and you can get a plug-in starter with at least the top 7-8 of these guys, ahead of Trevin.

 

I think we package one of our 5ths to move up in the second

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1 hour ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

I think we package one of our 5ths to move up in the second

I could see it and would love it. For Rod or Golday. Or for even one of the higher tier DBs like Haulcy. 

I don’t think we should do anything with our first unless a good offer comes with a trade down. 

But using some late round ammo to assure we land a day-1 starter in the 2nd is a sound move. 

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4 hours ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

I think we package one of our 5ths to move up in the second

https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp

Going by this chart that won’t get it done, at all.  both of our 5th rounders are worth 56, total. 
 

The 51st is valued at 390. Moving to 41 takes 100 points. In the second where we are, it is basically 10 points per slot. You can get in front of TB for 60 points. Baltimore at 45.  Which who would do that for 56 points? You are on a wing and a prayer. 
 

To realistically have a good shot at these top guys, outside of Golday, it is gonna take at least 100 points, I am thinking. 
And when they go, Golday’s market probably gets a lot hotter. 

Just going by the rankings/valuations, I am thinking if you realistically want to assure you get your guy it will take trading back in the first. Which is why I have been saying to do that if we can. 

For example 19 is valued at 875. 21 is 800. That, plus one of the 5ths gets you to 100 points which you theoretically could use to get to 41. 
 

I think there are going to be several good options for us at 19, if we are good with taking what is left at 21-23 we can get a good player plus fund a trade up for one of these LBs which is what I am thinking makes sense. 

 

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23 hours ago, rebelrouser said:

What is going on? That is the third player that had a longer arm length than the combine.  That is either players gaming their proday or someone messed up at the combine.  

There is a possibility that however people were measured it differs from what is being done elsewhere.  There were apparently a number of prospects that disagreed with their measurements at the combine... Maybe I just missed it but I'd never heard of this level of it before.

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