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FA Splash: Panthers sign Jaelan Phillips EDGE

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2 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

so just glancing at this which is the closest thing I've found to an actual study 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11511751/

it seems like they're doing their best to recreate impacts in a controlled environment a football player receives, then designing helmets that dissipate the force from those impacts. Just off the top of my head the main questions I would ask are 

1. how accurate are the lab conditions to real life and 

2. how do you account for those differences 

so it's obviously honorable and worthy research I just don't know how meaningful it is to the actual game. Especially when players are coached to fake different injuries (guy gets up from an obvious concussion and all his team mates are telling him to rub his shoulder) or your dumbass running back will just throw the blue tent open and drag your obtunded qb back onto the field

yes you can question 1000s of veritables. I mean you can punch someone with a bare fist and then fit a 5 Lb composite glove and there's a different result. Plus the focus is on the person getting hit, but the person giving the hit can get injuries/concussed too. (Same would go for the hand)

I know the NFL lowered the league concussions greatly by just limting practices and then KOs aka the old school wedge. I know you'll agree with just strengthening neck muscles would reduce them too, hell that maybe the best solution. Make all teams train neck muscles...... 

Panthers better have a safr helmet cap waiting for Jalen Phillips.....

 

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2 minutes ago, BombzAway said:

Morgan is brain damaged.. Between he and Tepper we have to hope for dumb luck for this team to ever be good I think.

Morgan built enough of a roster to get us to the playoffs after going 2-15 in 2023. That is impressive no matter how we limped into the postseason, I'd probably hold off on proclaiming Morgan can't build a roster yet. 

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3 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

Morgan built enough of a roster to get us to the playoffs after going 2-15 in 2023. That is impressive no matter how we limped into the postseason, I'd probably hold off on proclaiming Morgan can't build a roster yet. 

We won 6 games last season by a field goal... see the part of dumb luck I mentioned before?

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The Carolina Panthers had a total of 82 hurries last season...Jaelan Phillips had 60…

 

  • Carolina's 2025 Struggles: The Panthers defense finished "dead last" in total pressures during the 2025 season. The entire team combined for only 82 quarterback hurries.

 

  • Phillips' 2025 Production: Between his time with the Miami Dolphins and Philadelphia Eagles, Phillips recorded 60 hurries individually, ranking him among the top 5 in the NFL for that metric.
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6 minutes ago, Basbear said:

yes you can question 1000s of veritables. I mean you can punch someone with a bare fist and then fit a 5 Lb composite glove and there's a different result. Plus the focus is on the person getting hit, but the person giving the hit can get injuries/concussed too. (Same would go for the hand)

I know the NFL lowered the league concussions greatly by just limting practices and then KOs aka the old school wedge. I know you'll agree with just strengthening neck muscles would reduce them too, hell that maybe the best solution. Make all teams train neck muscles...... 

Panthers better have a safr helmet cap waiting for Jalen Phillips.....

 

these helmets also probably don't do much for CTE which is caused by tons of small impacts over the course of a career. So they're probably really good for middle and HS and college players since 99.9% won't be playing pro and (in theory) don't have to worry about that so much. 

if you can just minimally dissipate the impact from huge hits in youth football that's a worthy endeavor. 

in the pros, at the end of the day it's the biggest, fastest, strongest people slamming into each other. it's just physics at that point 

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2 minutes ago, NcPsa10 said:

The Carolina Panthers had a total of 82 hurries last season...Jaelan Phillips had 60…

 

  • Carolina's 2025 Struggles: The Panthers defense finished "dead last" in total pressures during the 2025 season. The entire team combined for only 82 quarterback hurries.

 

  • Phillips' 2025 Production: Between his time with the Miami Dolphins and Philadelphia Eagles, Phillips recorded 60 hurries individually, ranking him among the top 5 in the NFL for that metric.

The more I learn about his production (outside of sack numbers), the better I feel about the signing, just need him to stay healthy and produce

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6 minutes ago, BombzAway said:

We won 6 games last season by a field goal... see the part of dumb luck I mentioned before?

and Philly won 6 in 2024 on the way to a Super Bowl - what is your point? Luck obviously always is an extremely important part of any pro sports (injuries, weather, travel, schedule, etc.)

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2 minutes ago, NAS said:

The more I learn about his production (outside of sack numbers), the better I feel about the signing, just need him to stay healthy and produce

that's a lot of pressures on a team with Jordan Davis, Jalen Carter, Braun, Smith, etc, coached by Vic Fangio. 

We've got Derrick Brown, two corners, and then a bunch of guys named Greg. 

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