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LAST MINUTE: ESPN's Matt Miller's final cock draft


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17 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

So you think Sadiq and KC are top shelf?

That is what you took from that? Seems like you want to argue with someone, or me specifically 

1st round talent according to the rest of the world. Don’t want either, but apparently in this year’s version they are considered top shelf. 1st round being the shelf in question. 
 

It isn’t just this year either. T Mac was definitely top shelf. And they drafted XL in the first. 

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2 hours ago, Thompcat said:

I just don't understand how lazy these guys are. It's easy just to follow what some guy picked early on and they keep it up. We have not even met with him. I don't have anything against Sadiq, but we have several other immediate needs. I know it's not sexy pick but OL and DL should be in play.

You don’t really draft players on sex appeal, you draft available talent relative to needs, positional value, depth of position, and overall cost of acquiring players elsewhere.

OT and DT don’t have a lot of names that are highly sought after, skill positions are expensive high value positions that are deep in this particular class, thus the interest. 

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1 minute ago, Growl said:

You don’t really draft players on sex appeal, you draft available talent relative to needs, positional value, depth of position, and overall cost of acquiring players elsewhere.

OT and DT don’t have a lot of names that are highly sought after, skill positions are expensive high value positions that are deep in this particular class, thus the interest. 

Fans mostly argue the sex appeal. Pros are supposed to be above falling into this trap, but they often do. 

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35 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Every WR he's ever played with had their last best season with him. Many had their best seasons ever with him. Just saying.

Thst’s a hell of a claim. Thielen? Really? 
 

Johnson? 
 

Also, four of the current roster have oly ever played with him. so I guess you are safe with them. 

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16 minutes ago, strato said:

Thst’s a hell of a claim. Thielen? Really? 
 

Johnson? 
 

Also, four of the current roster have oly ever played with him. so I guess you are safe with them. 

Meant to say Moore, not Johnson. And he has not done what ou claimed with Bryce, look up his career stats.  
 

Ditto Thielen.
 


 

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36 minutes ago, strato said:

Meant to say Moore, not Johnson. And he has not done what ou claimed with Bryce, look up his career stats.  
 

Ditto Thielen.
 


 

"last best season", meaning they didn't go somewhere else after here and do better. Old man Moore and older man Thielen probably wouldn't have played much on many more rosters at that point in their careers.

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I  want to enjoy the night

…and hope they pick someone who makes them better, has no injury issues, no history with courts and bad behavior 

if it is first rd play maker, offense or defense, i want a 3 down player, not a gadget 

it is christmas in April.  I dont want this  main pick  in rd  1 to be socks and underwear  …plenty of time for utilitarian 
 

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13 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

"last best season", meaning they didn't go somewhere else after here and do better. Old man Moore and older man Thielen probably wouldn't have played much on many more rosters at that point in their careers.

I mean, last best? Okay. 
 

 

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