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Bryce Young 5th year option exercised

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Honest question.   What do you think his trade value is today.  4/28/26?     I'd say maybe a 4rth.   

That seems about right. No higher than that for a bottom third qb with two years left, including one expensive year.

He played well enough last year to show he is startable. It depends on whether other teams thought he has any upside left and whether he's been hindered by coaching and surrounding cast.

I think most teams would answer no, but if they thought he could step it up just a little I could see trading a fourth or fifth for a bridge guy/top tier backup.

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1 hour ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

During the draft process it was said over and over that Arizona doesnt have a starting QB. Brissett started 12 games. He technically played in 2 others taking a single snap in 1 and 3 in the other. If we take his stats from those 12 starts and average it out for 16 to match Bryce's number his output would have been 

4488 yards 30 TDs and 11 ints.

Now if all the "experts" don't consider that starter worthy how can Bryce's 3011 yards, 23 TDs and 11 int be starter worthy enough to lock in for 2 more years? 

 

Young went to bama and Brissett went to nc state.

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1 hour ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

During the draft process it was said over and over that Arizona doesnt have a starting QB. Brissett started 12 games. He technically played in 2 others taking a single snap in 1 and 3 in the other. If we take his stats from those 12 starts and average it out for 16 to match Bryce's number his output would have been 

4488 yards 30 TDs and 11 ints.

Now if all the "experts" don't consider that starter worthy how can Bryce's 3011 yards, 23 TDs and 11 int be starter worthy enough to lock in for 2 more years? 

 

It's baffling. Bryce is the most replaceable QB out there. Pretty much any other team with a bottom third qb with a mid/low ceiling is going to keep throwing darts.

One more year of him and we can finally move on and have real hope again.

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40 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Honest question.   What do you think his trade value is today.  4/28/26?     I'd say maybe a 4rth.   

Nobody is giving up a 4th rounder for a backup QB

And anyone who needs a starter badly enough to where Bryce would then be their starter, is such a bad team that they're not giving up a pick likely to be about pick 105ish overall, instead of just dealing with a bad QB situation for a season and then drafting one in a loaded QB draft next year.

I'm looking through all the teams right now and can't think of a single one that would be willing to part with anything better than a 6th rounder.

Barring injuries (and excluding the Panthers), there look to be 10 teams who don't know with 100% certainty who their starting QB will be in 2027...

Dolphins, Jets, Browns, Steelers, Vikings, Colts, Saints, Falcons, Cardinals, and Rams.

Of those 10... 

The Rams know it will be Stafford or Simpson.  The Saints more than likely will be sticking with Shough unless he takes a huge step backwards.  So neither are giving up any draft picks for Bryce right now, just wouldn't make sense for either.

Down to 8

Given their current QB situation of having multiple QBs they already need to evaluate between this year, the Browns (Shedeur/Watson), Vikings (Kyler/JJ), Colts (Jones/Richardson/Leonard), and Falcons (Penix/Tua), wouldn't be giving up a 4th (or maybe any pick) to bring in another QB to muddy the waters even more.

Down to 4

Dolphins just signed Willis and wouldn't want to bring in another small Alabama QB who has struggled after just dumping Tua instead of just rolling with Ewers as the backup.  

That then leaves the Steelers, Cardinals, and Jets left as it's clear none of them have any idea who their 2027 could be as of right now.  But the Steelers would for sure rather just see what one of the 2 QB's they drafted in the last 2 drafts could become than give up a mid round pick for Bryce.  Same goes for the Cardinals in taking Beck this past weekend.

The Jets would be the most likely team to even consider taking him on with an eye for the future, but I think it seems very apparent right now given them rolling with Geno and now talk of bringing in Wilson to be his backup, they're punting on QB this year to draft someone next year, so why give up even a mid round pick for Bryce?

Then there are a handful of teams that probably would give up a 6th or 7th to be their backup to an entrenched QB.

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2 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Nobody is giving up a 4th rounder for a backup QB

And anyone who needs a starter badly enough to where Bryce would then be their starter, is such a bad team that they're not giving up a pick likely to be about pick 105ish overall, instead of just dealing with a bad QB situation for a season and then drafting one in a loaded QB draft next year.

I'm looking through all the teams right now and can't think of a single one that would be willing to part with anything better than a 6th rounder.

Barring injuries (and excluding the Panthers), there look to be 10 teams who don't know with 100% certainty who their starting QB will be in 2027...

Dolphins, Jets, Browns, Steelers, Vikings, Colts, Saints, Falcons, Cardinals, and Rams.

Of those 10... 

The Rams know it will be Stafford or Simpson.  The Saints more than likely will be sticking with Shough unless he takes a huge step backwards.  So neither are giving up any draft picks for Bryce right now, just wouldn't make sense for either.

Down to 8

Given their current QB situation of having multiple QBs they already need to evaluate between this year, the Browns (Shedeur/Watson), Vikings (Kyler/JJ), Colts (Jones/Richardson/Leonard), and Falcons (Penix/Tua), wouldn't be giving up a 4th (or maybe any pick) to bring in another QB to muddy the waters even more.

Down to 4

Dolphins just signed Willis and wouldn't want to bring in another small Alabama QB who has struggled after just dumping Tua instead of just rolling with Ewers as the backup.  

That then leaves the Steelers, Cardinals, and Jets left as it's clear none of them have any idea who their 2027 could be as of right now.  But the Steelers would for sure rather just see what one of the 2 QB's they drafted in the last 2 drafts could become than give up a mid round pick for Bryce.  Same goes for the Cardinals in taking Beck this past weekend.

The Jets would be the most likely team to even consider taking him on with an eye for the future, but I think it seems very apparent right now given them rolling with Geno and now talk of bringing in Wilson to be his backup, they're punting on QB this year to draft someone next year, so why give up even a mid round pick for Bryce?

Then there are a handful of teams that probably would give up a 6th or 7th to be their backup to an entrenched QB.

Nobody is giving you a Draft pick for Young with a guaranteed $25m contract. 

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1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

Nobody is giving you a Draft pick for Young with a guaranteed $25m contract. 

Yes and no.

My post was more or less pretending we hadn't picked up the option yet, as what his trade value would have been yesterday.  But if anyone was going to trade for him with the hope that he took a step forward and could be their long term solution, they would be picking up the option after trading for him anyways (like we did with Darnold).

So us having already picked it up wouldn't stop a team from trading for him if they thought they could turn him into their future guy.

But yes, having picked up the option now makes him untouchable for any team hoping to use him as a backup this year.  Before the option, I think his max value would be to a team like the Packers for a 6th or 7th to backup Love this year.

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11 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Nobody is giving you a Draft pick for Young with a guaranteed $25m contract. 

We did it with Darnold and Mayfield.  Someone will think he was just in a bad situation and a change of scenery will fix it.

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3 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Yes and no.

My post was more or less pretending we hadn't picked up the option yet, as what his trade value would have been yesterday.  But if anyone was going to trade for him with the hope that he took a step forward and could be their long term solution, they would be picking up the option after trading for him anyways (like we did with Darnold).

So us having already picked it up wouldn't stop a team from trading for him if they thought they could turn him into their future guy.

But yes, having picked up the option now makes him untouchable for any team hoping to use him as a backup this year.  Before the option, I think his max value would be to a team like the Packers for a 6th or 7th to backup Love this year.

Well Darnold at least had the physical gifts that were worth taking a shot at if you thought you could coach him up mentally. BY is already at his physical ceiling/height. I don't see anyone else really expecting him to be more than a top backup option. Unless we get nervous and massively overpay him I think he should be getting Teddy Bridgewater backup/prove it money from his next team. 

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3 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Well Darnold at least had the physical gifts that were worth taking a shot at if you thought you could coach him up mentally. BY is already at his physical ceiling/height. I don't see anyone else really expecting him to be more than a top backup option. Unless we get nervous and massively overpay him I think he should be getting Teddy Bridgewater backup/prove it money from his next team. 

Plus, where is his 13-3 near MVP type season that got Darnold the Seattle deal? 

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4 minutes ago, strato said:

Plus, where is his 13-3 near MVP type season that got Darnold the Seattle deal? 

I kinda wish we hadn't been handed the playoffs last year in a horrible division, the team wouldn't be allowed to push the current narrative looking at regular season stats and that 54 yard 1 int game when everything was in our control

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