Bryce Young 5th year option exercised

[Jackie Lee]

59 minutes ago, strato said:

This groundhog day movie happens because the QB has not removed doubt. And there are commitment decisions on the timeline that put this question squarely in the crosshairs.  And they affect out future.  
For me personally the last three years has done very little to convince me that I was not wrong in not wanting him. We have a few nice games.  Yet now we are committed for two more years.. which in reality is actually only one when looking at the long term future because of the extension question. 

Who the hell wouldn’t over discuss it when the dust has settled from FA and draft day and it is all there is to ponder? It is the main pondering event. 
 

And in the end, arguments in favor of him having shown enough to be the future are simply bereft of enough convincing evidence to stem the tide of negativity over his Short comings. 
 

Yeah I don't get the upward trajectory thing, from year 1 almost all his numbers are the same except TD's went up to 24. INT's are the same, overall yards and ypa are pretty much the same, and that's giving him the benefit out the doubt just looking at stats. As Cam would say he's not a game changer and it doesn't seem like most of us and almost all NFL defenses think he will be either. The only really surprising thing is he hasn't gotten any major injuries aside from the getting benched with ankle sprains

[strato]

24 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Yeah I don't get the upward trajectory thing, from year 1 almost all his numbers are the same except TD's went up to 24. INT's are the same, overall yards and ypa are pretty much the same, and that's giving him the benefit out the doubt just looking at stats. As Cam would say he's not a game changer and it doesn't seem like most of us and almost all NFL defenses think he will be either. The only really surprising thing is he hasn't gotten any major injuries aside from the getting benched with ankle sprains

I see him being better and most of that is a few downfield passes that were seemingly non existent. 
 

But it is what is around him that has dictated the trajectory more than the quarterbacking. He is game manager level and unable to dictate to defenses. 
And even if I am wrong and he is the reason we ‘upwarded’, we are bumping our heads on the ceiling and only making meager gains. If it is an incline it is awfully shallow degree wise. Like a finance graph that tracks your progress and hovers around the rate of inflation. Barely breaking even. 
Is that where you want your money? 
We make up these deadlines expectations and generally he does the minimum of what he needs to do to hang around. 
 

It does not encourage me to believe that when we get into a game against a good run d that we cannot break down with our run game, to believe that we can pivot to the air and successfully counter their strategy. 
But they run it back again. Of course I am gunshy of a repeat of the same thing we have watched for three years. 
 

oh, and yes his durability is his most impressive positive for my money. I fear the other shoe dropping on that and the contractual consequences that will follow.  

Last  of all, too late to edit my mistake here but would like to acknowledge it: the last three years has done very little to convince me that I was not wrong in not wanting him. One too many “not”s. 

Edited 12 hours ago by strato

[Cpt slay a ho]

I honestly question play calling a lot more towards the end of last season than Bryce’s play. I’m not sold on Canales as an offensive mind, I haven’t seen the advantage he gives on that side of the ball. Maybe that changes with the new coordinator so that will be something to look for.

Either way I’m not falling for the same hook line sinker again this offseason. I hope we don’t settle for a qb just because of some weird attachment issues we seem to have as an organization to Bryce. I’d rather start the search for a qb again, now with a much more stable team and front office, then getting hooked for multiple years with a qb that under performs and is overpaid 

[kass]

17 hours ago, strato said:

No saying he mostly sucks is saying that he doesn’t suck the minority of the time.  
Like if he took 17 tests and had a couple of really good showings and a handful of pretty good scores sprinkled in among the typical sub par results.  
Like a golfer who went out and shot an 89.  There will be some real nice shots sprinkled in there but at the end of the day it is still 89.  
 

Nice explanation, but I was just messing with you. Thought that would be obvious.

I dont have the energy to keep on trolling.

Last season I compared our situation with Bryce as a potential Alex Smith, but what we should be looking for is our version of Mahomes.

Some people will read that as one sentence, to me that single sentence is equivalent to a half A4 explanationf of the teams pathway forward.