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2011 NFL draft revisited, would you take JJ Watt over Cam?

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At this point nctarheel0619 is reaching PanthersUnited level of idiotic posting.

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I'll take Watt + RW over Luke and Cam at this point.  

 

I can't stop laughing.

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I was reading the 2011 CBS remock and both of the writers had JJ Watt going first overall. Cam slipped to 2nd and 3rd in the redrafts, btw.

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25139822/nfl-draft-redux-colin-kaepernick-to-browns-or-jets

 

Knowing what we know now, would you still take Cam over JJ Watt, who is quickly becoming the best pass rusher the league has ever seen? If you spent this offseason shitposting about "BPA! BPA!" would you still think that Cam is BPA over JJ?

 

Oh yeah and please don't turn this into yet another "CAM HATER!!" witch hunt/circlejerk please, you have a bunch of other threads to valiantly defend a million dollar athlete against the legion of evil sports writers who are probably saints and cowboys fans.

 

Watt would have obviously been a good pick; but what I'd be more interested in finding out is how the QB situation would have shaken out. Would we have nabbed someone is later rounds(we would have been in place for either Andy Dalton or Colin Kaepernick in the 2nd)? Would we have let it ride, and potentially been in the running for Andrew Luck in 2012? Way too many variables.

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A convo about Cam and JJ Watt...

And it somehow ends up being about Andrew friggin Luck.

They should ban the guy who first brought Luck's name up in the thread...

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At this point nctarheel0619 is reaching PanthersUnited level of idiotic posting.

Now_thats_what_I_call_a_cool_story_bro.g

 

Just because I'm not a complete homer like your moronic ass, doesn't mean I can't state my opinion.  

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They would have won the NFC south by a game and a half

 

Truth!

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Now_thats_what_I_call_a_cool_story_bro.g

 

Just because I'm not a complete homer like your moronic ass, doesn't mean I can't state my opinion.  

 

I think that gif might have been edgy about 5 years ago.

 

Based on your commentary about this, and our OL in another thread, I don't think this is about being a homer, it's simply a complete lack of understanding on your part.

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I think that gif might have been edgy about 5 years ago.

 

Based on your commentary about this, and our OL in another thread, I don't think this is about being a homer, it's simply a complete lack of understanding on your part.

I do recall many posters stating how you're awful.  You have brought literally nothing to this discussion.  Besides bashing someone for their opinion, and lack of understanding on what part?  Because I would take RW & Watt over Luke and Cam right now?  Okay, many other people that watch the NFL would do the same thing.  We had a discussion last year who would you rather have?  Luke or J.J. and the majority of this board took J.J.  Luke is the best LB in the game, but Watt is a game changer.  

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I take my previous post back. I was thinking that we would have very likely gone for Kaepernick or Dalton in the 2nd, having the first pick in that round. But we didn't. We had no second round pick. Assuming that we would have had the address the emergency situation at QB with the likes of Ryan Mallet, Ricky Stanzi(who?), or T.J. Yates, I'm pretty happy with the direction that we went in. 

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I do recall many posters stating how you're awful.  You have brought literally nothing to this discussion.  Besides bashing someone for their opinion, and lack of understanding on what part?  Because I would take RW & Watt over Luke and Cam right now?  Okay, many other people that watch the NFL would do the same thing.  We had a discussion last year who would you rather have?  Luke or J.J. and the majority of this board took J.J.  Luke is the best LB in the game, but Watt is a game changer.  

 

Girls!! Girls!! 

 

Let's settle on down now. I will say that NCtarheel gets a little leeway simply due to the fact that he's (I'm assuming) a UNC-Chapel Hill fan who would like RW to be his NFL QB. 

 

With all that being said, can't we all just agree with the fact that we dodged 3 potential landmines named Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, and Jake Locker in the first round?? That, alone, is reason to celebrate. 

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Girls!! Girls!! 

 

Let's settle on down now. I will say that NCtarheel gets a little leeway simply due to the fact that he's (I'm assuming) a UNC-Chapel Hill fan who would like RW to be his NFL QB. 

 

With all that being said, can't we all just agree with the fact that we dodged 3 potential landmines named Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder, and Jake Locker in the first round?? That, alone, is reason to celebrate. 

I don't think anybody clamored for any of those guys.  Boy did they suck.  

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JJ Watt is probably going to end up one of the best defensive linemen of all time.

I don't know how much different his stats would be in a 4-3 but I would pick JJ over Cam.

Defensive player of the year > Possibly top 10 QB.

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There's only one factor that really matters outside of Madden when it comes to franchise quarterbacks -- games won. Right now, in a comparison of first four years with the team, Cam has a record of 30-31-1, which isn't exactly lighting up the field. Heck, it doesn't even compare favorably to Jake Delhomme's record of 35-25 for the same time span.

 

That's Jake Delhomme beating him out as our quarterback over a four year span. Playoff record for each during the same span: Cam 1-2, Jake 5-2. 

 

You can throw out all of the excuses for Cam that you want, but when you look back at a quarterback's career, the questions are a) Did they win games? B) Did they win the big games?

 

So when I look at Cam's record and it can't even match up to Jake's, yeah I would choose Watt over Cam with a roll of the dice as to who our QB would have been.

 

I still hold out hope that Cam will be more of a winner than a celebrity this year. Franchise QBs play in the Pro Bowl, great quarterbacks are busy preparing for the Super Bowl.

 

 

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I do recall many posters stating how you're awful.  You have brought literally nothing to this discussion.  Besides bashing someone for their opinion, and lack of understanding on what part?  Because I would take RW & Watt over Luke and Cam right now?  Okay, many other people that watch the NFL would do the same thing.  We had a discussion last year who would you rather have?  Luke or J.J. and the majority of this board took J.J.  Luke is the best LB in the game, but Watt is a game changer.  

 

Someone said something mean? Oh that's terrible.

 

Let me tell you something about those "many other people that watch the NFL", a large portion of them are bandwagon morons who merely go on name recognition versus actually knowing anything about a player, particularly ones who play opposite their favorite football team.

 

I think Watt is a damn good football player, he may be a "game changer", but that doesn't necessarily = overall success (33-31) as Texans fans can tell you.

 

Are you seriously referencing a message board poll to back up your opinion? I vaguely recall that thread, and it was a split if anything.

 

Luke isn't just the best LB in the game, he's the best middle line backer. I assume, or at least hope that you know the difference.

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