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8 minutes ago, Fryfan said:

  Currently they have given the president a blank check, yes DEM politicians have not done jackshit to take this back.  But it is a matter of congress to take back. 

Uh, yeah they did in Yemen.  Trump vetoed that attempt.

Should be grounds for impeachment.

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2 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

So that leaves us with a democratic opposition that doesn't hold themselves to the same standard they want the POTUS to be held to.

Well with the Al Franken standard Trump should have been forced to left office the day he stepped in.  Many congress people have resigned in disgrace for a lot less then what Trump has done.

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Uh, yeah they did in Yemen.  Trump vetoed that attempt.

Should be grounds for impeachment.

Trump have veto power.  Its up to congress to override.

 

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3 minutes ago, Fryfan said:

Trump have veto power.  Its up to congress to override.

Or they could just impeach him for being responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.

Or doesn't human genocide rise to the level of impeachable offenses in your book?

 https://www.vox.com/2019/4/4/18293954/war-powers-resolution-passes-congress-yemen-bds

 

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Congress has officially passed a resolution to end US support for the war in Yemen, a strong rebuke of President Donald Trump’s foreign policy toward Saudi Arabia.

Trump has pledged to veto the resolution.

The war in Yemen, directed by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (or MBS, as he’s commonly referred to in Washington), has killed more than 50,000 people and left more than 20 million Yemenis in need of humanitarian assistance.

The US helps the Saudi-led coalition, which also includes the United Arab Emirates and several other Gulf Arab and African countries, by providing them with intelligence, selling them arms and ammunition, and, until late last year, fueling warplanes.

That means the US is partially culpable for the death and destruction of Saudi’s enemies in the war — the Iranian-backed Houthi rebels — and the thousands of civilians who have been killed. In one particularly egregious incident, a coalition warplane bombed a school bus full of children last August with an American-made bomb, killing at least 40 of them.

The Yemen resolution invokes the War Powers Resolution of 1973 (WPR), which gives Congress the power to direct a president to remove troops involved in “hostilities” abroad if there has been no formal “declaration of war or specific statutory authorization” from Congress.

Not only does it serve as a censure of Saudi’s conduct in the war, it’s also a clear check on executive power; if the US wants to be involved in a war in Yemen, Congress has to declare it. The Republican-led Senate passed the resolution in March, and it now heads to Trump’s desk. The White House says the president plans to veto it.

Nonetheless, that the resolution has passed signals a significant shift in Congress around Saudi Arabia. Getting it done took intense progressive antiwar activism and a rare bipartisan coalition of progressive and conservative lawmakers to claw back war-approving authority from the president and end US participation in a war that has created one of the world’s worst humanitarian disasters.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Or they could just impeach him for being responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.

Or doesn't human genocide rise to the level of impeachable offenses in you book?

 https://www.vox.com/2019/4/4/18293954/war-powers-resolution-passes-congress-yemen-bds

 

 

The article backs up what I am saying.  Do you think I am for these conflicts and droning and lack of humanitarian care?  fug No.

 

The problem I have is that its CONGRESSES job to do something about it.  If Trump has veto powers OVERRIDE it.  Bernie could be president and be forced into war by congress.  That is my point.  Congress is at fault with all theses conflicts (aka wars)

 

 

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Just now, Fryfan said:

The article backs up what I am saying.  Do you think I am for these conflicts and droning and lack of humanitarian care?  fug No.

The problem I have is that its CONGRESSES job to do something about it.  If Trump has veto powers OVERRIDE it.  Bernie could be president and be forced into war by congress.  That is my point.  Congress is at fault with all theses conflicts (aka wars)

Or Congress could just impeach Trump for human genocide, couldn't they?

Answer:  Yes Nan they could. 

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15 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Or Congress could just impeach Trump for human genocide, couldn't they?

Answer:  Yes Nan they could. 

 

15 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Or Congress could just impeach Trump for human genocide, couldn't they?

Answer:  Yes Nan they could. 

The resolution is needed to stop support for a foreign led war.   Sorry I condemn you condemn a majority of congress does but the president can support the war and it’s not impeachable. 
 


The article states congress can remove the power of support by the president  

 

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23 minutes ago, Fryfan said:

Well with the Al Franken standard Trump should have been forced to left office the day he stepped in.  Many congress people have resigned in disgrace for a lot less then what Trump has done.

Without a doubt, but Trump far from the first POTUS to have a dark past when it comes to their sexual proclivities and none of them were booted from office for it. 

I'd lead Donald out of the White House in handcuffs today if I could.

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3 minutes ago, Fryfan said:

 

The resolution is needed to stop support for a foreign led war.   Sorry I condemn you condemn a majority of congress does but the president can support the war and it’s not impeachable. 
 


The article states congress can remove the power of support by the president  

 

So committing human genocide isn't grounds for impeachment in your book?

Interesting.

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One of these days folks around here are going to realize Nan is a GOP shill trying to pretend to be a leftist and working to tear apart any opposition to Trump and his 100 year Reich.

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11 minutes ago, Inimicus said:

One of these days folks around here are going to realize Nan is a GOP shill trying to pretend to be a leftist and working to tear apart any opposition to Trump and his 100 year Reich.

Oh, you got me.

Yeah, nothing like calling out political hypocrisy to shed some light on the defenders of corporate greed and endless wars.

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25 minutes ago, Inimicus said:

One of these days folks around here are going to realize Nan is a GOP shill trying to pretend to be a leftist and working to tear apart any opposition to Trump and his 100 year Reich.

What do you mean one of these days? 

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3 hours ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

These people sit around and watch Fox News all day.

Democrats are evil. They will outlaw Christianity. They will take everyones guns. They will ruin the economy. They will implement Sharia law. They will ban Christmas. They will implement Death panels. They want everyone on welfare. They will flood the country with murderers and rapists.

And on and on and on. Straight propaganda 24/7.

This is why it's so easy for them to hand wave blatant corruption. This is why they don't care when you show them GOP policies only benefit the super rich and hurt average Americans.

If you think someone is literally Adolph Hitler reborn, would you care if someone had to gerrymander or hack a few voting machines to keep Hitler from gaining power? Would you care if Hitler's opponent didn't have the best tax plan?

To them, Democrats are "the enemy". They are evil. They are Satan. They will destroy the country. They must be stopped by any means necessary, cheating, corruption, whatever, doesn't matter.

This is why trying to convince them with logic and facts is a complete waste of time.

You think these people don't already KNOW that Trump bribed a foreign government to help him in the next election?

You think they don't already KNOW that this is obviously impeachable?

Of course they do, they just don't care. Democrats are "the enemy" and they would rather burn the country to the ground than give Dems a political win.

Pot...Kettle

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2 hours ago, bull123 said:

Pot...Kettle

Not remotely the same.

Republicans are literally talking about a second civil war. They hate democrats. They hate their fellow Americans. They truthfully are waiting for an excuse to kill us. We're so different, so inferior, so twisted that once we start to implement our socialist agenda (or whatever it is we're supposed to do that's so evil) that the only solution is to exterminate us.

Where's the lie?

Democrats hate Republican politicians who are obstructionist, hypocritical, and trying to take away the rights of millions. And we hate the right wing media outlets who lie and mislead and divide.

Democrats don't hate Republicans. I can't speak for everyone, but I can tell you, I don't hate Republicans.

I think you're foolish. I thing you're ignorant. I think you're misled. I think you're selfish. And I think you're gullible.

But I don't hate you. You're a victim of the right wing as much if not more than I am. I just wish you'd think for yourself.

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31 minutes ago, Captroop said:

Not remotely the same.

Republicans are literally talking about a second civil war. They hate democrats. They hate their fellow Americans. They truthfully are waiting for an excuse to kill us. We're so different, so inferior, so twisted that once we start to implement our socialist agenda (or whatever it is we're supposed to do that's so evil) that the only solution is to exterminate us.

Where's the lie?

Democrats hate Republican politicians who are obstructionist, hypocritical, and trying to take away the rights of millions. And we hate the right wing media outlets who lie and mislead and divide.

Democrats don't hate Republicans. I can't speak for everyone, but I can tell you, I don't hate Republicans.

I think you're foolish. I thing you're ignorant. I think you're misled. I think you're selfish. And I think you're gullible.

But I don't hate you. You're a victim of the right wing as much if not more than I am. I just wish you'd think for yourself.

Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

 

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37 minutes ago, Captroop said:

Not remotely the same.

Republicans are literally talking about a second civil war. They hate democrats. They hate their fellow Americans. They truthfully are waiting for an excuse to kill us. We're so different, so inferior, so twisted that once we start to implement our socialist agenda (or whatever it is we're supposed to do that's so evil) that the only solution is to exterminate us.

Where's the lie?

Democrats hate Republican politicians who are obstructionist, hypocritical, and trying to take away the rights of millions. And we hate the right wing media outlets who lie and mislead and divide.

Democrats don't hate Republicans. I can't speak for everyone, but I can tell you, I don't hate Republicans.

I think you're foolish. I thing you're ignorant. I think you're misled. I think you're selfish. And I think you're gullible.

But I don't hate you. You're a victim of the right wing as much if not more than I am. I just wish you'd think for yourself.

You can’t be serious

AOC, Omar, talib, schiff, nadler.....your leaders ALL hate repubs

and dims across the country hate repubs

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