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Second mass shooting in less than 24 hours: 9 dead in Dayton

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1 hour ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

this is stupid. most of these spree shooters plan to be killed by police or kill themselves. you’re just exploiting the violence in hopes of more racist policy.

Also, hard to label them as rogue when they all have the same mission statement lol

G5 doesn't have a bottom when it comes to apologizing for right wing terrorism

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1 hour ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

this is stupid. most of these spree shooters plan to be killed by police or kill themselves. you’re just exploiting the violence in hopes of more racist policy.

Huh?  Keeping people in jail for using guns in violent crimes is racist?

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31 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

What the fug are you doing?

Pointing out “socialist” can’t have it both ways, if they get into this guys background. He was clearly a social media socialist. Best to keep it to the, shooting had nothing to do with political motivation and focus on the El Paso shooters act of terrorism. 

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58 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

You know things are pretty bad in this country when it is difficult to find the right mass shooting thread to post in.

 

On a science forum I frequent we have a thread titled "Today's Mass Shooting." It was started January 23, 2018 because we got tired of making me threads. Last I checked it had over 1,000 posts, & the record for between updates (new mass shootings) was 10 days. 10 fugging days.

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21 minutes ago, g5jamz said:

Huh?  Keeping people in jail for using guns in violent crimes is racist?

No.

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4 minutes ago, 332nd said:

On a science forum I frequent we have a thread titled "Today's Mass Shooting." It was started January 23, 2018 because we got tired of making me threads. Last I checked it had over 1,000 posts, & the record for between updates (new mad shootings) was 10 days. 10 fugging days.

"Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

Between healthcare and guns, the United States can't get beyond square one.

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"Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" is a well-known phrase in the United States Declaration of Independence. The phrase gives three examples of the "unalienable rights" which the Declaration says have been given to all humans by their creator, and which governments are created to protect.

 

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28 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Pointing out “socialist” can’t have it both ways, if they get into this guys background. He was clearly a social media socialist. Best to keep it to the, shooting had nothing to do with political motivation and focus on the El Paso shooters act of terrorism. 

And was he “radicalized” to be a “socialist terrorist”.  

If so we need to see where and how he was “radicalized “. If not we treat it like the shooting it was and without political motive. 

 

We we know about alt right incel radicalizing. We have not seen a left side of this. If there is (unlikely) we should deal with it. 

 

To to both sides these shootings is a falsity at this point. 

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"uh ackshually... "

-NGD

e: reminds me of E-Cat talking about how mass shootings aren't tragic because more people die falling out of bed every year, utterly blind to nuance.  The point isn't whether someone died dumbasses it's the underlying cause, and frankly it sounds like you're arguing mass shootings are just these random uncaused events like a tree falling on someone's house.

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7 hours ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

it does nothing to address the problem. it’s a standard right wing talking point meant to further weaponize the justice system against non white people. also you’re a known racist so i mean....

You don’t want to solve problems.  To fix problems you want to punish everyone,  

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6 hours ago, Marquis said:

 

Medical errors have intense review boards

New flu vaccine every year

Suicide prevention hotlines, support groups, & specialist.

Constant updates in car safety.

Thoughts & prayers.

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2 hours ago, 332nd said:

Medical errors have intense review boards

New flu vaccine every year

Suicide prevention hotlines, support groups, & specialist.

Constant updates in car safety.

Thoughts & prayers.

This is an excellent post and I think sums up the reasoning for the anti religious attitude people have in this discussion. 

Prayers are offered by religious people for every situation above. 

Gun control actions have been taken after these tragedies.  Both trump and obama signed orders and actions to address gun issues:

https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/05/politics/obama-guns-legal-challenge/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/18/politics/bump-stocks-ban/index.html

Gun control doesn't sit still at the city or state level either as some states have tightened and some have loosened their laws.

For those who feel the actions above aren't enough,  direct your hatred at the 2nd amendment and its historical supporters, including sanders.  Explain to Americans that they will be safer when they are unarmed.

The data for gun control effectiveness is all over the place.  Some places see a reduction, others don't. 

I think the real fantasy is that gun control measures are some panacea. 

 

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RESULTS:

ACKGROUND:

A federal assault weapons ban has been proposed as a way to reduce mass shootings in the United States. The Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 made the manufacture and civilian use of a defined set of automatic and semiautomatic weapons and large capacity magazines illegal. The ban expired in 2004. The period from 1994 to 2004 serves as a single-arm pre-post observational study to assess the effectiveness of this policy intervention.

Assault rifles accounted for 430 or 85.8% of the total 501 mass-shooting fatalities reported (95% confidence interval, 82.8-88.9) in 44 mass-shooting incidents. Mass shootings in the United States accounted for an increasing proportion of all firearm-related homicides (coefficient for year, 0.7; p = 0.0003), with increment in year alone capturing over a third of the overall variance in the data (adjusted R = 0.3). In a linear regression model controlling for yearly trend, the federal ban period was associated with a statistically significant 9 fewer mass shooting related deaths per 10,000 firearm homicides (p = 0.03). Mass-shooting fatalities were 70% less likely to occur during the federal ban period (relative rate, 0.30; 95% confidence interval, 0.22-0.39).

 

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30188421

 

fug off with all this we cant do anything BS.

 

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Internet 

video games 

mental health

yeah, nothing is going to change when people are intellectually dishonest when this happens.  Everyone in the world deals with these problems.  We are the only nation that deals with these mass shootings.  There is one glaring thing that sets us apart from the world.  Guns.  A boatload of guns. 

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14 minutes ago, CRA said:

Internet 

video games 

mental health

yeah, nothing is going to change when people are intellectually dishonest when this happens.  Everyone in the world deals with these problems.  We are the only nation that deals with these mass shootings.  There is one glaring thing that sets us apart from the world.  Guns.  A boatload of guns. 

Yeah I can't believe this video games drum is still getting beat.    Games are worldwide and some of the biggest gamer countries (South Korea, Japan, etc) aren't having these same problems.    

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