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Luke’s retirement + cap

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2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

"Panthers have a league high amount of dead money"...

That sounds familiar.

Marty getting started early on the dead money dump. I really thought it’d be 2021 before it slammed us in the face. 

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18 minutes ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

Ignore that nonsense. He may actually believe you are somehow responsible for bounty gate just because you are a fan.

We have had a player kill someone and an owner sexually harassing staff. Nobody franchise exists without its scandals. 

I may or may not have held the money for the "pay-for-performance" pool.

I'M SORRY! :crying:

17 minutes ago, TheGoldenRhule said:

Our frachise didn't scandal its way to a superbowl win.

No, y'all certainly didn't... but y'all fell two games short.

:tongue:

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7 minutes ago, bigdog10 said:

Marty getting started early on the dead money dump. I really thought it’d be 2021 before it slammed us in the face. 

It actually might not be a bad idea, especially if y'all have an eye on a certain QB next draft. Could be starting over with an entirely new slate, including at GM.

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3 minutes ago, TheGoldenRhule said:

Ive seen your posts btw generally good dude.... just not the offseason to be a panthers fan lol.

It's all good, haha. And I appreciate it, I know we're getting close to the same situation when we have to eat a huge load of dead money as well. Definitely not looking forward to it, but that's the way the cookie will crumble. Just going to have to hang on until the organization is out of the tunnel.

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10 minutes ago, Iron Saint said:

I may or may not have held the money for the "pay-for-performance" pool.

I'M SORRY! :crying:

No, y'all certainly didn't... but y'all fell two games short.

:tongue:

not only was that in 1996, but it also wasnt even confirmed with evidence. we didnt lie to the league about targetting players either, that's speculation and nobody knows if it was supported by the coaching staff or not, or if it even happened to begin with. 

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11 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Gale Sayers had a shorter career and never even played in a Super Bowl.

True but he was a RB in a bygone era. Players like Bobby Wagner will eclipse Luke unfortunately. 

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14 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

It means that of his $15.5 mil that we will only generate $3.67 mil in cap space, while also losing Luke Kuechly. Basically, about the worst possible thing imaginable. 

Man that sucks big time.

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14 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

"Panthers have a league high amount of dead money"...

That sounds familiar.

How much of that is Matt Kalil

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12 hours ago, SmartyHurney said:

Y'all sitting here talking poo about Hurney, the person who picked Luke (who was not at all wanted by about 40% of you assholes btw), and you don't even know how retirement works. The Panthers and Luke will have a sitdown and work out how much money he gets. If we're like the Colts we'll give him the entire due, if not, then our cap improves a lot.

That's not how any of this works.

We now save just under 4M total by him retiring.

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14 hours ago, King K. Rhule said:

oh yeah how could we forget the multiple restructures. thanks hurndog.

Anyone blaming Hurney for extending g him and now him retiring is a blithering idiot.  Those extensions were done for a HOF player in the 6th year if his career...times when you would extend and restructure him.  There was no one (Hurney included) that would have even fathomed Luke retiring now.

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1 minute ago, MadHatter said:

Anyone blaming Hurney for extending g him and now him retiring is a blithering idiot.  Those extensions were done for a HOF player in the 6th year if his career...times when you would extend and restructure him.  There was no one (Hurney included) that would have even fathomed Luke retiring now.

Unless we needed the cap space, restructuring is rarely a good idea.

Doing it to Luke, while it maybe seems like not a bad idea due to his age and ability, still came back to bite us.

Doing it to KK and Trai....when it's not needed is certainly going to come back and bite us.

It's a bad practice, but doing it to certain contracts is worse than others, in this case all of Hurney's restructures are going to affect us.

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11 minutes ago, MadHatter said:

Anyone blaming Hurney for extending g him and now him retiring is a blithering idiot.  Those extensions were done for a HOF player in the 6th year if his career...times when you would extend and restructure him.  There was no one (Hurney included) that would have even fathomed Luke retiring now.

pfff yeah no. He had so many concussions man, I knew this could happen at any time, Im just glad it didn't happen on the field with a skull crushing hit to the head. Luke was a bad hit away from retiring since 2017. Dude's had a bakers dozen of concussions. Now I would have thought he would have at least played this upcoming year.

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