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Cam's relationship with the team

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1 minute ago, blackcat said:

Bottom line is that if Cam is healthy, he's here.  As we saw this year, franchise QB's area  precious commodity.  Also, Cam puts a$$es in seats and Tepper know this.

the league has revenue sharing.  he doesn't care if there are fans in the seats.  a consistent winner guarantees sellouts, his new stadium/mini city.  all revenue generated from his mini-city is not subject to revenue sharing.  it will take a consistent winner for his vision to manifest.  his plan is a 5 year plan, not a this year plan.   you think about a season, he thinks about an empire

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3 minutes ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

 

Go watch Clem- excuse me the crowd confused me Carolina Panthers vs Houston Texans in 2017 preseason. I know another player who would put ALOT MORE butts in the seats. 

Good point.  It drives me f*cking nuts that Clemson fans are bigger fans of Houston than of the Panthers.  I have inlaws like that.  I still believe Cam is here next year if healthy.

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2 minutes ago, raz said:

the league has revenue sharing.  he doesn't care if there are fans in the seats.  a consistent winner guarantees sellouts, his new stadium/mini city.  all revenue generated from his mini-city is not subject to revenue sharing.  it will take a consistent winner for his vision to manifest.  his plan is a 5 year plan, not a this year plan.   you think about a season, he thinks about an empire

Yeah, and a healthy Cam can still be part of that empire.

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6 minutes ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

How would it be a awesome power move? The organization likely WANTS to suck in 2020, nothing they have done shows otherwise. Cam being healthy might've led them to spending in FA and using the draft picks to fill holes. I truly think what Cam did likely has sealed his fate here, why are you so confident in his judgement? This man WALKED UP AND ADMITTED TO TMZ HE WAS DRUNK, and proceeded to talk to them. Watch CMC and Greg, Greg is either drunk or VERY unhappy with how Cam is acting. CMC walked out with a pissed look on his face away from Greg and Cam, he is the kinda guy who would at least wave. I have a feeling Cam made a fool of himself in that restaurant. I don't trust him anymore, I truly think Kia screwed him up, the stupid clothes (take the blue glasses off, they're ugly as hell and the whole league laughs at him), the poor performance (first loss in 2015 and the SB loss was after chosen's birth), and so on were after the relationship got heavy. Frankly, I've seen multiple games injury aside since then Cam looked like he wasn't ready. 2017 vs Atlanta Cam couldn't hit the broad side of a barn, costing us the division. His actions have changed, he just doesn't seem like the same player or man we had in 2015. If you truly think he is going to come out in 2020 and focus on nothing but football when with the children alone, he will go to court for Custody determination, Then a drawn out court case on how much Cam has to pay a month on child support, then visitation during a 17 week NFL season. 

Frankly I'm ready to tank and move on, this crap is getting stupid.

Are you fuging serious? You’re reading way too much into a small ass video. They were having a good time. It was pretty obvious they were having fun. 

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Just now, TheRed said:

Based on Pantherzack's standard for what it is and isn't acceptable behavior from a franchise quarterback, I'm curious to hear his opinion of Ben Roethlisberger.

And why are you babbling about 2017 of all seasons? Cam actually dragged us to the playoffs that year. If you're going to pick a down year, why that one?

Did I say I was happy with Ben? Ben also didn't go in front of the media and cause a circus for the organization that could upset every business aspect Tepper has. Also, Ben Roethlisberger was not taken to justice for the crime, legally a business cannot fire their employee for a crime the justice system did not find them guilty for.  If O.J Simpson was employed by an NFL team, they would've had to pay him 100% of the millions guaranteed he was owed. 

The patriots actually had to pay Aaron Hernandez's  family the rest of his contract later on because the law said he died a innocent man when he died during appeal. 

I don't see Ben's antics in the media everyday.

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1 minute ago, OneBadCat said:

Are you fuging serious? You’re reading way too much into a small ass video. They were having a good time. It was pretty obvious they were having fun. 

No problem with having fun, my problem is walking up to TMZ. I drink, Idc what he does, walk away from the media.

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6 minutes ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

So what do we discuss here? It's sports bro, if it bothers you, that's pretty sad.

Nah, man, doesn't bother me. Seems like the whole thing has you bothered.

We had a guy here a couple of years back who just completely lost it saying the team was withholding information and he was demanding to know medical conditions of a player. The guy just frikkin' went crazy like someone on here could tell him but wouldn't. Just trying to help you manage expectations.

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We can only go off what we hear in interviews. A lot of former players that heard Tepper's comments felt that they were disrespectful. And I agree with that.

 

But that doesn't give insight on what the future holds. It's just thoughts about one interview.

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3 minutes ago, blackcat said:

Good point.  It drives me f*cking nuts that Clemson fans are bigger fans of Houston than of the Panthers.  I have inlaws like that.  I still believe Cam is here next year if healthy.

Because in 1995 Clemson was the second choice for the stadium cause Richardson was clearly a coot. In his 24 season as owners, they ignored Clemson University and cut every Clemson player within weeks. I go to Clemson and we support our alumni, the Panthers clearly only support South Carolina alumni. Why would a Clemson fan go cheer for Captain Munnerlyn, Damire Byrd, and all the other SC alumni? They Panthers have poo on our university from the beginning, we passed on Mackenzie Alexander for Vernon Butler. 

Want to fix it? Draft the greatest player in Clemson history where you can give those people a reason to travel two hours. I can quote multiple Clemson season ticket holders who have said they will immediately buy PSLs if the Panthers draft TL. 

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6 minutes ago, blackcat said:

Yeah, and a healthy Cam can still be part of that empire.

i agree with that 100%.  not my preference but if he stays and can ball out that would be great.

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Just now, DubE_4MR said:

We can only go off what we hear in interviews. A lot of former players that heard Tepper's comments felt that they were disrespectful. And I agree with that.

 

But that doesn't give insight on what the future holds. It's just thoughts about one interview.

Because Respectful for 27 years has been YES to everything. Even Steve Smith threw a hissy fit, the organization is going through what it needs to, A MAJOR CHANGE.

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6 minutes ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

No problem with having fun, my problem is walking up to TMZ. I drink, Idc what he does, walk away from the media.

Lol, yes TMZ was just standing there minding their own business standing by the exit/entrance of the club and Cam demanded that they turn on their cameras and that he talk to them :eyeroll:

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Just now, raz said:

i agree with that 100%.  not my preference but if he stays and can ball out that would be great.

If Cam is healthy, I would LOVE him to come back. But when the team obviously wants silence, he makes a bold definitive statement directing questions at Tepper.

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Just now, X-Clown said:

Lol, yes TMZ was just standing there minding their own business standing by the exit/entrance of the club and Cam demanded that they turn on their cameras and that he talked to them :eyeroll:

No, he grabbed the camera and said listen here and bragged about how he was drunk. That's so what parents want to pay $400 for 4 tickets and $250 for food, team clothing,  and parking for my family to see. Football is a business, not everyone is ok with that. If he walked into the car with GO and minded his own business, it's not his fault TMZ is in his face. Christian McCaffery did the right thing, why couldn't Cam?

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2 minutes ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

If Cam is healthy, I would LOVE him to come back. But when the team obviously wants silence, he makes a bold definitive statement directing questions at Tepper.

that's why its not my preference.  i'm sick of him too.  it took a couple years to happen, but i'm over the lack of maturity.  

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