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We need to come out of this draft with??

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50 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

I don't know but I have seen rookie CB give up 300 yards to 1 WR in a game... Come back and actually show improvement later in that season.. 

The whole reason I feel they are committed to giving Little and Daley a shot is due to the "13 mill" guy being here.. If he wasn't it would be stupid to hand the job to Little, Daley or a rookie this year... They tried it last year with a "7 mill" guy and he sucked so bad he got Cam killed.. So Hopefully bringing in a better quality Vet is the answer to help transition your already drafted assets...

But my problem with you ppl is you're acting like the context to the situation didn't happened... 

Did you expect a rookie OT with way below the practice reps (due to injuries) to be thrown into the fire a play well??? If you did then your expectations levels need to be checked...

Oh what day can you officially say somebody sucks?? I don't know can we give him more then 4 games in a injury riddle rookie season... Greg Robinson got 4 years 2 suspension and a drug arrest.. Can we give little and Daley more then 4 games?? poo we gave Kugblila and Amini  3 years...

You want to build your line around a freaking 6th round draft pick that played like poo?  The levels that people go to making excuses for Hurney is insane. 

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4 minutes ago, Toomers said:

  So if Little plays LT well this year, it means nothing? Because if his faults can’t be discussed without blood vessel’s bursting, nothing he does well matters either. And Greg Robinson is your example? That’s adorable. He has forever sucked. 
 

   Or do we just continue to cherry-pick what is.....ah hell forget it. I’m passed playing list of excuses for everything. Just make up whatever you need to be right. That’s where this ends up anyhow. 

In a perfect world he gets some practice reps some pre season snaps and sits most of the season getting spot duty here and there... This Hopefully is a learning season not a playing season  most of the year.. And then 4 or 5 games near the end of the season he might get some run.....  And if he plays well then you have the start of a LT for the future conversation... Just like any other rookies not expected to start day 1...

You can bring up his faults but add some fuging context... [He get crushed in a game but he didn't really have a full offseason program or enough practice reps to be successful when thrown to the fire]... You see?? That isn't that hard to make criticism but add context to your criticism..

 

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9 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

You want to build your line around a freaking 6th round draft pick that played like poo?  The levels that people go to making excuses for Hurney is insane. 

I want to see what the 2nd and 6th rounder can develop into before I give up on them after only 4 GAMES...

Unlike you I actually know that rookie LT don't come in a dominant most don't play well at all...Add in the fact that neither had a full offseason.. Which is needed to make this transition.. So I understand why they didn't look like Jonthan Ogden in 4 games... Sorry

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What I want or what Rhule wants? He'll probably build the d-line, add a CB, add some depth. I'm not expecting anything exciting offense wise. It's going to be a slow painful rebuild. We're headed for the middle of the pack in the next couple of seasons imo.

 

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3 hours ago, cmichd said:

Well with TeddyB being a Left handed QB it won't be his blind side when he lets them blow by him.  Now we know why we got a left handed QB.  Too make sure he he could see the pass rush coming from the strong side.   No wonder you weren't concern about his ability to cover the blind side.

Teddy is right handed. There are no Lefty QBs on an NFL roster and weren’t any last season. Tua will be the only one next year. 

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We need DTx2, CBx2, LB, S, DE and C.  I know that's one heavy, but maybe we trade down and get another pick.  Now, based on value, if we end up with an OT, or a WR I wouldn't necessarily upset.  This will be a defense heavy draft, however.

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14 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

Talent.

Too many of you are worried about the positions of the guys we draft. We aren’t going to be competitive this year and it would be stupid to draft to fill a depth chart. We are rebuilding and need talent. They can start worrying about holes in a couple seasons but to do so now would only hurt us even more.

This, god dam if this team doesnt have the worst roster in the NFL. Take the higher rated players and hope in the near future we can start filling ONLY a few spots.

Panthers still need about 20 players, in that they need close to 10 starters. 8 may do with some luck. The depth is god awful and I feel for the new coaching staff.  

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We have so many needs just about every position has a hole, so it can actually be both.  We aren't getting a starting QB out of this draft, TE is stupid weak this year, we filled WR gaps in FA and drafting a RB to watch CMC is pointless.  Subtract specialist and you have about every position I listed.  Drafting BPA should cover most needs, because we have plenty of them.

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Why is everyone ignoring we still need a LT. Okung is often injured. 

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6 minutes ago, Snake said:

Why is everyone ignoring we still need a LT. Okung is often injured. 

I think most recognize the need, but are setting the expectation we'll ignore it. 

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12 minutes ago, Snake said:

Why is everyone ignoring we still need a LT. Okung is often injured. 

Just because you don't agree with the plan at LT doesn't mean there isn't a plan... Nobody is ignoring it ppl just recognize that the plan is you have 2 candidates already on the roster.. No matter if you like them are not they are already here already collecting a check so you might as well see if you can develop them... Okung is here to be a stopgap and help with that development.. Which in Todays NFL is a good situation for a young LT candidate to come into.. Rookie LT will struggle will be bad and need time  to develop to be able to transition to the pro game most of the time... So even if you draft a rookie it's good to have a Okung on the roster.. So you're not throwing a rookie out there to get your QB killed... 

Ppl forget that Jordan Gross spent his rookie season at RT before he was transition to the left side.. So Gross had 2 offseason and 1 full season of development reps and practice... Before being a good LT...

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8 hours ago, WOW!! said:

Just because you don't agree with the plan at LT doesn't mean there isn't a plan... Nobody is ignoring it ppl just recognize that the plan is you have 2 candidates already on the roster.. No matter if you like them are not they are already here already collecting a check so you might as well see if you can develop them... Okung is here to be a stopgap and help with that development.. Which in Todays NFL is a good situation for a young LT candidate to come into.. Rookie LT will struggle will be bad and need time  to develop to be able to transition to the pro game most of the time... So even if you draft a rookie it's good to have a Okung on the roster.. So you're not throwing a rookie out there to get your QB killed... 

Ppl forget that Jordan Gross spent his rookie season at RT before he was transition to the left side.. So Gross had 2 offseason and 1 full season of development reps and practice... Before being a good LT...

How many all pro LT's were 6th round picks?  How many above average LT's were 6th round picks?  There is a reason Daley fell to the 6th.  We have to get some talent at that position.  And like you said, pick a top one, let him learn at RT under okung and then slide him over in 2021

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12 hours ago, OnlyOne said:

Teddy is right handed. There are no Lefty QBs on an NFL roster and weren’t any last season. Tua will be the only one next year. 

My mistake.  I misunderstood the article of him throwing a interception Lefthanded.  Oh well them I can say why would we want Little on his blind side them.  He would be better being move to the Right Tackle slot so Teddy would have a chance to see those who beat him with the speed rush.     

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/927437

 

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