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20 hours ago, CRA said:

The Biden-Sanders Task Force  just revealed their policy for universal healthcare.   Yeah, that is his goal.   It just doesn’t happen tomorrow.   And that can’t be the bar because their is no human on the planet that could make it happen overnight if elected. 

 

 

 

On 7/31/2020 at 11:20 AM, CRA said:

Biden supports working off and improving Obamacare.  Which again would be part of the origin story when universal healthcare is reached in America. 

The right direction in America is slow as fug.  Now, you can be rightfully upset about that and mad.  Constantly working to increase the speed. 

But overnight in America isn’t realistic.  We have decades upon decades that prove that on every subject matter of importance. 

and your stance is you demand overnight change or nothing matters.  Which just isn’t reality in America

 

On 7/31/2020 at 9:31 AM, CRA said:

Sure they would.  Will it happen? Who knows.  It should.  It is how so much of actual progress works in reality.  Slowly. 

That is how universal healthcare will occur in America.  And the left is and has been working that road. 

You somehow think it can happen overnight in America and that steps in the right direction are pointless.  I mean when we one day we get there.  Obamacare will be part of the origin story. 

also, in fairness, you don’t represent the average Bernie supporter.  They didn’t make tremendous compromises to support him.  


 

All these posts are directly in response to GJBC talking about M4A aka universal healthcare. 
 

so again I ask you, do you still want to claim that M4A is an overnight policy or do you want to walk back your statements and admit you were wrong and unfairly characterizing the left’s push for universal healthcare?

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11 minutes ago, TheBlue said:

 

 


 

All these posts are directly in response to GJBC talking about M4A aka universal healthcare. 
 

so again I ask you, do you still want to claim that M4A is an overnight policy or do you want to walk back your statements and admit you were wrong and unfairly characterizing the left’s push for universal healthcare?

1.  M4A and universal healthcare aren’t interchangeable words.  

2.  all those post are referring to the Biden Sanders Task Force and their goal of getting us to universal healthcare. 

3.  The posting was initially to rodeo who asked about Biden’s current thinking/stance 

So again, quote the  post where I said M4A was an overnight plan and I’ll respond to you.  You didn’t quote what you demand be responded to.  

and yeah, there was a specific reason I noted people couldn’t bash the slow play approach of Biden/Dems to achieving universal coverage. Which it is slow as fug.  Because M4A wouldn’t be overnight either lol.   It would be even slower in reality getting rolling.

 

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1 minute ago, CRA said:

1.  M4A and universal healthcare aren’t interchangeable words.  

2.  all those post are referring to the Biden Sanders Task Force and their goal of getting us to universal healthcare. 

So again, quote the  post where I said M4A was an overnight plan and I’ll respond to you.  You didn’t quote what you demand be responded to.  

You are being completely disingenuous here(no surprise) 

 

In the context of universal healthcare in America the most popular plan who 70% of people support is M4A. In the posts I quoted you, GJBC is talking about M4A. The biden-Sanders task force wasn’t brought up until yesterday. Last week you were talking with GJBC about M4A.

 

ive quoted the posts. It’s very clear for everyone who wants to go back and read the exchanges to see you were characterizing the left’s push for M4A as an overnight goal.

 

so again, without trying to deflect or weasel your way out of answering, Yes or No, do you think M4A(the most likely and popular way to achieve universal healthcare) is an overnight plan? 
 

Simple stuff here

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5 minutes ago, TheBlue said:

 

 

so again, without trying to deflect or weasel your way out of answering, Yes or No, do you think M4A(the most likely and popular way to achieve universal healthcare) is an overnight plan? 
 

Simple stuff here

 answered in the other post. 

M4A likely would most likely in reality be an even slower step to get rolling than universal healthcare.   Because it would receive even greater resistance. 

 

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3 minutes ago, CRA said:

 answered in the other post. 

M4A likely would most likely in reality be an even slower step to get rolling than universal healthcare.   Because it would receive even greater resistance. 

 

It’s a yes or no question. Does M4A in fact have a 4 year rollout or not? 

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1 minute ago, TheBlue said:

It’s a yes or no question. Does M4A in fact have a 4 year rollout or not? 

well, it technically does.  But it wouldn’t happen like that.  Too much resistance. Would take multiple presidential terms to happen in reality if it ever occurred. 

 

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4 minutes ago, TheBlue said:

It’s a yes or no question. Does M4A in fact have a 4 year rollout or not? 

Easily. Did you read the bill the house pushed and the one bernie wanted? To full implementation? If the one that was most recently was pushed. Everyone would have been fuged way worse than they are now.

Have you done the math of court challenges when a Texas or Alabama Federal court puts a hold on the entire thing and it takes a year to trickle to the SCOTUS?

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3 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Easily. Did you read the bill the house pushed and the one bernie wanted? To full implementation? If the one that was most recently was pushed. Everyone would have been fuged way worse than they are now.

Have you done the math of court challenges when a Texas or Alabama Federal court puts a hold on the entire thing and it takes a year to trickle to the SCOTUS?

hey harbingers while you’re here can you explain why you were so sure tlaib would lose? i found a couple of your dumb takes and posted them on the last page but you must have missed it. is it because she booed “sister hillary”?

also how mad are you that a 50 year shitlib dynasty was erased by a ferguson blm activist last night? lmao

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“outside money from (((sources))) associated with (((bernie sanders)))”

yikes they are not taking this well. pretty funny that the clay campaign tried to smear cori bush as an antisemite at the last minute and now we see this from his daddy

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6 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

they are going to do everything they can to avoid a debate

well, Trump doesn’t debate.  He doesn’t even do interviews.  He just campaigns and does lies.  That aside...

Biden debated all the Dems.  Group and one on one.   And won. What you are currently doing is just echoing Trump campaign propaganda....that somehow pretends that didn’t happen. 

 

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13 minutes ago, CRA said:

well, it technically does.  But it wouldn’t happen like that.  Too much resistance. Would take multiple presidential terms to happen in reality if it ever occurred. 

 

1) there’s no technicality about it. The bill 100% has a 4 year phase in. So the answer no matter how you try to weasel out of it is that M4A isn’t an overnight plan as you characterize.

 

2) you literally have no evidence to support that claim. Obamacare which had far less support and a far more complicated rollout/system that it needed to setup only took 4 years from being signed into law to have most of its major components in place.

 

M4A for all just automatically enrolls people. It’s infinitely more simple of a system to expand. You just don’t know what you are talking about and making poo up

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