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Do you take Tua if he is there? Okudah over Simmons?

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I could not decide if this has been seriously considered and properly debated lately, so I thought I would risk my rep and throw it out there--I know it has been mentioned a lot  But we have written volumes on the scenario we all feel is the most likely--and the assessment is based on needs for 2020 in most cases.  It is easy/lazy to label Tua "fragile" and dismiss him.  Maybe there is something to that.  Maybe, however, he simply had some bad luck, common to most athletes at some point. 

In a mock draft on  NFL network, it went like this:

1, QB Burrow, Cin

2. DE Young Wash

3. DT Brown, Det

4. OT Wirfs, NYG

5. OT Becton, Miami

STOP. 

What do you think the Panther's board would look like after 5 picks if this happened?

Tua, Herbert, Okudah, and Simmons are all still in play with only 1 pick to go.

Do you think a 3-year contract with Bridgewater is the long-term answer at QB?  He could be the QB for the next 10 years--or he could be a stopgap. Could Tua be there at #7 and if so, how does any team in our situation NOT take a potential franchise QB?  Tua would sell tickets--bring a celebrity face back to Charlotte.  Fragile? In Brady's system with a few OL in 2021, is he worth the risk? The kid is accurate, has great vision, excellent pocket presence, etc.  Are you willing to pass him up because you think he might get hurt?  A franchise QB?

6. QB Tua Tcccmcdhdheopw#  The Chargers took Tua, so it is no longer an issue.

Steve Smith had the 7th pick and he took Simmons, leaving Okudah on the board--the Cardinals swooped in and took Okudah.  So if Okudah and Simmons are on the board, who ya got?

I take Okudah and it is not that close. We need an elite CB to keep Jackson away from the #1 WRs.

 

BOILS down to one basic question:

Who would you draft if Tua, Herbert, Okudah, and Simmons were on the board?

 

 

The stock is changing--Love could move int to the mix as early as #6 .  Opnions and scenarios change.  Where are you right now?

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Without the injury concerns, I definitely would. The injury concerns are very legit though and I don't know what to make of them.

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Tua, Okudah, Simmons 

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If Okuda falls to our pick there should be no debate. We'd be getting a top-3 talent at our biggest position of need.

Tua... pass. Fact is, if he falls it'll be because of some fairly major injury concerns. Don't want any part of that.

Simmons... I'd honestly take Brown or Wills or Jeudy or even Andrew Thomas over him. He's an OLB; as good as he may be, the positional value just isn't there at #7 overall. Sure he's versatile, but you can only play one position at a time.

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6 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I could not decide if this has been seriously considered and properly debated lately, so I thought I would risk my rep and throw it out there--I know it has been mentioned a lot  But we have written volumes on the scenario we all feel is the most likely--and the assessment is based on needs for 2020 in most cases.  It is easy/lazy to label Tua "fragile" and dismiss him.  Maybe there is something to that.  Maybe, however, he simply had some bad luck, common to most athletes at some point. 

In a mock draft on  NFL network, it went like this:

1, QB Burrow, Cin

2. DE Young Wash

3. DT Brown, Det

4. OT Wirfs, NYG

5. OT Becton, Miami

STOP. 

What do you think the Panther's board would look like after 5 picks if this happened?

Tua, Herbert, Okudah, and Simmons are all still in play with only 1 pick to go.

Do you think a 3-year contract with Bridgewater is the long-term answer at QB?  He could be the QB for the next 10 years--or he could be a stopgap. Could Tua be there at #7 and if so, how does any team in our situation NOT take a potential franchise QB?  Tua would sell tickets--bring a celebrity face back to Charlotte.  Fragile? In Brady's system with a few OL in 2021, is he worth the risk? The kid is accurate, has great vision, excellent pocket presence, etc.  Are you willing to pass him up because you think he might get hurt?  A franchise QB?

6. QB Tua Tcccmcdhdheopw#  The Chargers took Tua, so it is no longer an issue.

Steve Smith had the 7th pick and he took Simmons, leaving Okudah on the board--the Cardinals swooped in and took Okudah.  So if Okudah and Simmons are on the board, who ya got?

I take Okudah and it is not that close. We need an elite CB to keep Jackson away from the #1 WRs.

 

BOILS down to one basic question:

Who would you draft if Tua, Herbert, Okudah, and Simmons were on the board?

 

 

The stock is changing--Love could move int to the mix as early as #6 .  Opnions and scenarios change.  Where are you right now?

You have to take Tua. QB is the most important position. If he’s gone, it’s Okudah then Simmons. Just because we desperately need a CB.

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If Tua is there it's awful difficult to say no, injury or not.  

That said, there's plenty of great QB talent coming out of college year after year.  Lockdown corners are exceedingly rare.  Okudah has got to be the pick.  Dude is a surefire pro bowler.

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100% id take Tua, never pass on the chance at a franchise QB to put yourself in QB purgatory.

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I would take Okudah over Simmons, take a solid DT in the second and an IOL in the 3rd.

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Easily Okudah over Simmons. And I’d probably take Tua. 

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The Dolphins are taking Tua, but I'd take a chance on him if he's there.

Okudah easily over Simmons or any other player in the draft except Young and maybe Tua.

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Yes, I would take a chance on Tua, but would have to be confident in hitting on all other picks to fill some glaring needs, especially in 2nd and 3rd rounds.

I would take Simmons over Okudah. 

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Yes,

 

QB is the most important position in football.  And if your in position to draft a top one.  You take him.

What, we dont and try to put our eggs in the basket for Lawerence or Fields.  I hate to break it to yoi.  This team will be bad but Far from top 2 draft position lock next year.

 

You take Tua, sit him.  Remember, Bridgwater and Brady have history together.  Play him up under Brady and trade him next year.  The Bills got a 3rd for Tyrod Taylor.  We should get that if not more.

And heck say we do get the 2nd overall pick next year.  With Tua already in fold, you auction that pick off.  You build around Tua with all that ammo.

 

Lets not forget another thing.  One comp for Tua that he's been getting a lot, is Bree's.  Who just so happens to fit Brady's offense like a glove.

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Okudah absolutely. Without a second thought. Having a corner that can potentially erase one side of the field is one of the things every coach wishes they could have.

Simmons is a tossup. Tua has all the talent in the world, and he'd be hard to pass up even with the injury concerns. If you trust him, take him. If not take Simmons.

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