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How many more games until the NFL season is delayed/cancelled due to Coronavirus? *CATCH ALL NFL/COVID THREAD*

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4 minutes ago, Murph said:

What did he say that was incorrect and/or what does he still not get?

The cavalier attitude toward the loss of life is quite frankly inhumane. Furthermore, the whole crisis has been mismanaged in America worse than most countries in the world. Lastly, a football game, nor most things really, is not worth the cost of infecting even more of the population with the coronavirus!

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27 minutes ago, Murph said:

What did he say that was incorrect and/or what does he still not get?

Umm, how about "4% of all the US deaths were a direct result of Covid"....that silly claim has been debunked countless times by experts.  The fact that people are still repeating it is an astounding display of ignorance.

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5 minutes ago, top dawg said:

The cavalier attitude toward the loss of life is quite frankly inhumane. Furthermore, the whole crisis has been mismanaged in America worse than most countries in the world. Lastly, a football game, nor most things really, is not worth the cost of infecting even more of the population with the coronavirus!

The truth is most people have made a choice to live their lives with some inconvenience for now rather than cower in fear over Covid19. The world has to go on. People have to interact. We've seen what happens when people feed into the hysteria. Watching people mass hoard food and TP while others went without because of panic, there's humanity at its finest. No one could wear a mask because someone took their paycheck and bought 10k to sell online at 50 bucks a pop.

People will die from this virus, until there is a vaccine or it burns itself out. That's not being cavalier, that's just reality. It's been mismanaged because of people vying for political power. Go back and read the early pages of the Corona virus thread. Regular people saying isolate the most susceptible, wash your hands and wear a mask, if you could find one and avoid clusters of people. 

But to answer OP question, the season will play in full. Teams will end up isolating at/near their training facilities and families will be allowed limited access. It may take longer, the SB may be in April, the draft in June, but the season will go on. Too much money at stake for too many people for it not to.

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36 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Umm, how about "4% of all the US deaths were a direct result of Covid"....that silly claim has been debunked countless times by experts.  The fact that people are still repeating it is an astounding display of ignorance.

The number, which is actually 6% solely COVID deaths, was released by the CDC. Is the Centers for Disease Control not made up of experts?

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10 minutes ago, Bama Panther said:

The number, which is actually 6% solely COVID deaths, was released by the CDC. Is the Centers for Disease Control not made up of experts?

In the last decade (10 years), the CDC estimates the worst flu season killed approximately 51,000 people.   34,000 people last year. 

COVID isn't the flu.  As the POTUS was told by his doctors this past week....COVID is more contagious and deadly than the flu.  And we know that by the 210,000 deaths and counting.   

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I think we will play more games.  I don't see them finishing in reality.  NFL made a mistake.  If they were going to have a season it needed to be shortened and a more bubble approach applied.  

Too much COVID currently in America and we now too committed to dealing with it.....which means when the cold arrives....we are going to have a nightmare.   And I think the players will essentially force the move to shut it down. 

Hope I am wrong.  

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1 hour ago, Murph said:

What did he say that was incorrect and/or what does he still not get?

What, you ask?

Covid isn't about me, you, your friend, or an athlete getting sick. It also isn't about how deadly it is or isn't. It isn't even about how contagious it is or isn't.

It's about me, you, your friend, or an athlete getting it ... and then passing it on to someone who could die. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. Indirect murder you could argue.

He wants to basically lock up the weak and old, lol. Like they don't have lives. NOT HIS PROBLEM. All so he can go back to normal life. He thumbs his nose at 200k EXTRA DEATHS. I mean, according to him, the amount of kidnapped kids each year is next to nothing compared to the population. Any kidnapped kid is horrible. 200k extra deaths is beyond horrible.

Do your part. Wear a mask. Wash your hands. Socially distance yourself.

But he only sees some numbers and skews them.

So ... that.

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I think the Titans should lose a draft pick.  If you are going to dock teams a draft pick for not wearing a mask on a sideline.....well, you dock the Titans blatantly violating COVID protocols. 

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14 minutes ago, CRA said:

In the last decade (10 years), the CDC estimates the worst flu season killed approximately 51,000 people.   34,000 people last year. 

COVID isn't the flu.  As the POTUS was told by his doctors this past week....COVID is more contagious and deadly than the flu.  And we know that by the 210,000 deaths and counting.   

I get that. Doesn’t change the CDC release regarding the 6% number. 

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1 minute ago, Bama Panther said:

I get that. Doesn’t change the CDC release regarding the 6% number. 

yeah, I probably shouldn't of quoted you either.  I was just kinda piggybacking and putting more numbers out there. 

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13 minutes ago, CRA said:

yeah, I probably shouldn't of quoted you either.  I was just kinda piggybacking and putting more numbers out there. 

Makes sense. Numbers are important in all of this mess.  

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27 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think the Titans should lose a draft pick.  If you are going to dock teams a draft pick for not wearing a mask on a sideline.....well, you dock the Titans blatantly violating COVID protocols. 

On that note, how hard would it be for players to have to wear a partial face shield just over the area in front of their mouths? Still plenty of room to get air around it and could potentially help with spread during game. 

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32 minutes ago, Bama Panther said:

The number, which is actually 6% solely COVID deaths, was released by the CDC. Is the Centers for Disease Control not made up of experts?

Yeah I'm fully aware of the statistic...that's not the issue here.  The issue is yours and others' incredibly misinformed, ignorant interpretation of what that statistic means.  Let me simplify this for you:

True statement: 6% of Coronavirus deaths had Coronavirus listed as the only cause of death mentioned on death certificates.

False statement: Only 6% of reported Coronavirus deaths were actually caused by Coronavirus.

So why is the above statement false you ask?  Because simply having other co-morbidities listed on the death certificates does not mean that Coronavirus did not ultimately lead to their deaths.  Many of these co-morbidities were directly caused BY Coronavirus.  For example, "respiratory failure" was listed as a co-morbidity in 55,000+ deaths...guess what causes respiratory failure?  Perhaps a respiratory virus?  Like Covid? Hmm...strange, right?  So in your eyes, because "respiratory failure" was also listed on the death certificate (which is ultimately what that patient died of), Coronavirus didn't cause it.

What are some other commonly listed co-morbidities on these death certificates?  Hypertension...diabetes...asthma.......lots of medical conditions that are otherwise easily manageable without throwing a deadly virus into the mix.

Literally all you have to do is Google "Coronavirus 6%" or "Coronavirus comorbidity claim" and there are countless articles all talking about this.  Pick one and read it.  Or better yet, here you go...I'll take some excerpts from a couple of the articles:

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In other words, 6% of people who died when they had COVID-19 didn't have underlying conditions, such as diabetes, asthma or heart disease, and didn't experience any medical complications, such as kidney failure or sepsis. But the other 94% of deaths were still caused by COVID-19, infectious disease experts said. That's because many chronic, underlying conditions can make diseases that a person might otherwise recover from, such as COVID-19, suddenly deadly. 

https://www.livescience.com/covid-19-comorbidities.html

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But the data on which all of this is based come from death certificates, which list any causes or conditions that contributed to a person’s death. In the case of COVID-19, the disease often causes other serious conditions, such as pneumonia or acute respiratory distress syndrome. Those two conditions are among the ailments with the highest counts in the CDC’s comorbidity chart. Some long-term conditions that increase the risk for severe COVID-19, such as diabetes or hypertension, were also listed.

The underlying cause of death, however, is the condition that started the chain of events that led to a person’s death. In 92% of all deaths that mention COVID-19, that disease is listed as the underlying cause of death, Jeff Lancashire, spokesman for the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics, told FactCheck.org in an email.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/cdc-did-not-admit-only-6-of-recorded-deaths-from-covid-19/

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25 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Yeah I'm fully aware of the statistic...that's not the issue here.  The issue is yours and others' incredibly misinformed, ignorant interpretation of what that statistic means.  Let me simplify this for you:

True statement: 6% of Coronavirus deaths had Coronavirus listed as the only cause of death mentioned on death certificates.

False statement: Only 6% of reported Coronavirus deaths were actually caused by Coronavirus.

So why is the above statement false you ask?  Because simply having other co-morbidities listed on the death certificates does not mean that Coronavirus did not ultimately lead to their deaths.  Many of these co-morbidities were directly caused BY Coronavirus.  For example, "respiratory failure" was listed as a co-morbidity in 55,000+ deaths...guess what causes respiratory failure?  Perhaps a respiratory virus?  Like Covid? Hmm...strange, right?  So in your eyes, because "respiratory failure" was also listed on the death certificate (which is ultimately what that patient died of), Coronavirus didn't cause it.

What are some other commonly listed co-morbidities on these death certificates?  Hypertension...diabetes...asthma.......lots of medical conditions that are otherwise easily manageable without throwing a deadly virus into the mix.

Literally all you have to do is Google "Coronavirus 6%" or "Coronavirus comorbidity claim" and there are countless articles all talking about this.  Pick one and read it.  Or better yet, here you go...I'll take some excerpts from a couple of the articles:

https://www.livescience.com/covid-19-comorbidities.html

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/cdc-did-not-admit-only-6-of-recorded-deaths-from-covid-19/

Also , think about if "most" people weren't trying to actively protect themselves from catching Covid?  No lockdowns, no mask, no social distancing.... what would the numbers be then?

 

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

I think the Titans should lose a draft pick.  If you are going to dock teams a draft pick for not wearing a mask on a sideline.....well, you dock the Titans blatantly violating COVID protocols. 

This is a slippery slope my friend. I am extremely uncomfortable with victim blaming when people get Covid, just like the disgusting media. I am so sick and tired of seeing Karens victim blame all these Covid patients. You know who else liked to victim blame? Hitler, victim blame today means before you know it, you will be reading Mein Kempf and blaming the ill for their sickness and wishing to eradicate them 

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