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2 minutes ago, Shocker said:

The Patriots offense just isn't good.  Not much talent there at all. Hardly all Cams fault.

RBs are a group of nobodies. WR is Corp is garbage. No TE. Not a very good supporting cast. Sounds familiar. 

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He hasn’t really done that good all season with the patriots. The first game he had that he supposedly did great he couldn’t get 200 yards passing. Yes he did have TDs. He has had many games where he hasn’t thrown for 200 yards.

 

i have always criticized how inconsistent Cam can be. Even in his MVP season he had a bunch of horrible games. The only reason why his season stats were great was because he had 5 games where he had 4-5 TDS. 2/3 of his  games were average or below average. he barely threw for 200 yards and had had a TD and a turnover or more.

 

you can blame Mike and Ron and everyone but I don’t think that’s fair. I think It’s on Cam. If Bill can’t do anything with him then he must suck. Many of Cams problems aren’t coaching problems but are his own. You can’t coach a player to not hold on to the ball for long periods of time. You can’t coach a player not to run and throw the b-ball away instead.

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We had the best offensive and best defensive player in the league and... man, fug.

.... let me finish that sentence.....  we had a 15-1 season and made it to the Superbowl.....  

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And yet there were some people here that defended every move Dave made...

smh

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1 minute ago, CardiacCat said:

.... let me finish that sentence.....  we had a 15-1 season and made it to the Superbowl.....  

More a testament to Cam's brilliance and overcoming the coaching than how good the coaching was. If not for Cam's improvised runs, that would hVe been a 8-8 season.

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1 minute ago, 4Corners said:

RBs are a group of nobodies. WR is Corp is garbage. No TE. Not a very good supporting cast. Sounds familiar. 

I disagree. They are Good, good offensive line. Solid RBs, good WR in Edelman. Sure they aren’t loaded with talent but they are above average. Tom Brady basically had the same team and did fine. Good QBs can do fine with an average team. Cam is doing horrible right now and you can’t blame that on the pats.

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He sacrificed everything for this franchise and to think what could have been if he had a better coaching staff/GM sucks. It was the right call to move on from him and sadly I think he is done. 2015 was one hell of a ride. If not for the headhunting that the league let slide he may have continued MVP caliber play. I see many outraged at the Bostic  hit on Dalton today but how many damn times did we see Cam takes hit exactly like that and get no calls. 

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1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

How about instead of looking at the stats you actually watch the ball he throws. They’re ugly. He one hopped a 5 yard comeback today. 

The stats were ugly but when you actually watched it was way worse 

Stats were all I had today. I was beginning to settle in to watch Cam after our game, but life got in the way today. I'm in a hospital parking lot typing this. But, thanks for telling me. I'll await the talking heads' analysis and pontifications tomorrow with baited breath.

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3 minutes ago, CardiacCat said:

.... let me finish that sentence.....  we had a 15-1 season and made it to the Superbowl.....  

We had those guys for more than one season. 

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Way too early to determine that, pats look horrible the last two weeks and they look pathetic when any of the other qbs are in. Good as Bill is can’t out scheme a talent deficiency of that magnitude.

 

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Does this mean the Pats bandwagon jumpers are coming back or are they moving on to Seattle, KC, GB, or TB?

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7 minutes ago, rmoneyg35 said:

He hasn’t really done that good all season with the patriots. The first game he had that he supposedly did great he couldn’t get 200 yards passing. Yes he did have TDs. He has had many games where he hasn’t thrown for 200 yards.

 

i have always criticized how inconsistent Cam can be. Even in his MVP season he had a bunch of horrible games. The only reason why his season stats were great was because he had 5 games where he had 4-5 TDS. 2/3 of his  games were average or below average. he barely threw for 200 yards and had had a TD and a turnover or more.

 

you can blame Mike and Ron and everyone but I don’t think that’s fair. I think It’s on Cam. If Bill can’t do anything with him then he must suck. Many of Cams problems aren’t coaching problems but are his own. You can’t coach a player to not hold on to the ball for long periods of time. You can’t coach a player not to run and throw the b-ball away instead.

What year is your f-150 bro?

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6 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

How about instead of looking at the stats you actually watch the ball he throws. They’re ugly. He one hopped a 5 yard comeback today. 

The stats were ugly but when you actually watched it was way worse 

Sadly I agree with this. He was just bad, yea he doesn’t have the most talent weapons but guys were open and he couldn’t hit them. He’s holding the ball way too long. Had all day to throw and guys were open and he just isn’t making the throws. The league isn’t the same as when he came in. He’s not the most athletic guy on the field anymore. You have to be able to carve up defenses and he just can’t do it right now. He looked worse as a passer today than he did at Auburn. 

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Just now, *FreeFua* said:

And yet there were some people here that defended every move Dave made...

smh

I hated Dave from Kugbilla onward. And hated every move he made. I don't understand why he still has a job in the league. I lay the majority of the blame form Cam's wasted career at Gettleman's feet, right next to his saggy man tits. Ron and Co. never allowed him to reach his potential, but Dave actively set him back. The stubborn refusal to give him any talent around him or protection was what greatly abbreviated the career of what should have been one of the most storied players in league history. 

Sorry, Giants, you're next. 

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1 minute ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Way too early to determine that, pats look horrible the last two weeks and they look pathetic when any of the other qbs are in. Good as Bill is can out scheme a talent deficiency of that magnitude.

 

Exactly.

I'm not jumping off the Cam wagon.

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