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4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That's a frightening thought.

Setting aside who we have as GM though, I'm not so thoroughly convinced of Lawrence being a football god that I'd be willing to trade everything for him.

Yeah, I mean he is one of the best QB prospects I have seen in a while but Luck was too and that didn't exactly go the way the Colts wanted it to. I believe he will be a good NFL QB. Do I think he will be Wilson/Mahomes good? Eh....not sure about that.

 There are no guarantees, that is for sure. 

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

No. The seller was some guy named Uncle Rico who said he had only used it once.

Hmmmm, sounds suspect.

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, I mean he is one of the best QB prospects I have seen in a while but Luck was too and that didn't exactly go the way the Colts wanted it to. I believe he will be a good NFL QB. Do I think he will be Wilson/Mahomes good? Eh....not sure about that.

 There are no guarantees, that is for sure. 

To be fair, the Colts had a sh-tty GM in Grigson and they mishandled their offensive line just as badly as we have, maybe worse if you can believe that.

I still remember people wishing we took the Colts approach to team building and just went out and got more weapons while forgetting about protection.

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2 hours ago, Mister said:

what better team and the fastest way to success for trevor lawrence is other than the panthers? can you name a better fit for lawrence? NO you can and you wont , a motivated head coach with heart and balls , a hungry offensive coordinator that done a great job this season , a dangerous set of receivers dj moore curtis samuel and robby anderson , one of the most dangerous groups in the nfl and last but not least CHRISTIAN MCCAFFREY , no matter what lawrence does the main star of this offense is mccaffrey . you put a big arm accurate passer that can run in this offense and you can see the lombardi in no time . but with a 0.6 percent by advance football analytics for us to seal the deal and get lawrence brings up the how point . we need to lose out and we need the jets and jaguars to win or a dispute between jets and lawrence and we make a huge trade .he is this missing piece and the qb hunry jags and jets stay in our way . this is our quickest way back in a time portal to 2015 . i want to WIN and WIN SOON im not patient 

I agree - BUT we would also do just fine with Justin Fields....and we would not have to trade all the way to 1 to get him.

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, I mean he is one of the best QB prospects I have seen in a while but Luck was too and that didn't exactly go the way the Colts wanted it to. I believe he will be a good NFL QB. Do I think he will be Wilson/Mahomes good? Eh....not sure about that.

 There are no guarantees, that is for sure. 

Its a different league now, from even when Luck came in.  They have gimped things for the offense, and the passing game in particular, that YES, I think he will be on the level of Mahomes and Wilson, and probably from jump.  Rookies dont really have to struggle anymore.  Since they have pretty much stopped calling offensive holding, and call any ticky tac thing on the defense, its a whole new world.

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3 hours ago, Zod said:

Now all we need to do is go back and unwin those 3 wins. 

This. There's no way we (or anyone else) is out-sucking the Jets. If he enters the draft (virtual certainty IMO), he'll either play for the Jets or force them to trade him. 

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3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Jets would be fools to trade out of the 1 spot (assuming its them)

They wouldn't be if he refused to play for them and meant it.

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7 minutes ago, Ted Ginn Jr.'s Hands said:

Washington is the most important game left, if we win that, we could be on the outside looking in when we try to get a QB in the draft.  

Very possible. We're both gonna be looking at QBs. The winner of that game very well could be stuck on draft day watching the other team take their guy due to the outcome of that game.

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Great- give all those picks up for a QB who will get killed behind a JV O-line.

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3 hours ago, Zod said:

Now all we need to do is go back and unwin those 3 wins. 

Can you forfeit in the NFL? I’d bet the Cardinals would take us up on that in a heartbeat. SD wouldn’t and I’m not sure about Atlanta.

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7 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

Great- give all those picks up for a QB who will get killed behind a JV O-line.

a lot can change after a draft pick and FA pickup.... see Broncos line 2014 vs 2015

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4 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

Great- give all those picks up for a QB who will get killed behind a JV O-line.

Isn’t it too bad we wasted pick 47 and 77 on Little instead of a C and G and didn’t take one of the 3 tackles after Brown who have all done well. 2 at LT and one who could play LT? Just lose Brown but the OL would be set next year for a rookie QB. Then you would have had the option to trade up.

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Dallas with their 2 wins will look mighty tasty to Trevor. I'll give you Jets, Jags, Cinci, Houston, LAC, DC, ATL, maybe even Denver ... but no way he chooses here over there or the NYG if he decides to be a prick.

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Look, if Lawrence decides to play out his career in Clemson, it gives Carolina a second opportunity to tank. As embarrassing as it is, a second chance to completely screw up because you were so bad at screwing up the first time doesn't sound like a bad thing.

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1 hour ago, joemac said:

Its a different league now, from even when Luck came in.  They have gimped things for the offense, and the passing game in particular, that YES, I think he will be on the level of Mahomes and Wilson, and probably from jump.  Rookies dont really have to struggle anymore.  Since they have pretty much stopped calling offensive holding, and call any ticky tac thing on the defense, its a whole new world.

This is why you have to build a powerhouse offense. They want to turn the NFL into the Pac-12 and they're gonna do it one way or the other. They want high flying high scoring offenses because that's what excites the casual fans. The diehard football purists like me who would prefer to see a more balanced game don't matter. There's just not enough of us and at the end of the day, we're gonna watch anyway. It's all about keeping the casual fan engaged in an increasingly distracted world and the best way to do it is with a lot of offense.

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