DaveThePanther2008

I hope he continues to get more looks. He was my favorite coming out of camp last year and was just baffled he didn't see much time. Tremble had a nice catch too. Though it was his only pass throw to him. It's going to ruin the Fitterer haters too if Marshall, Tremble and Hubbard start to ball out and join Horn and Christensen as good picks.

So I assume you want to lose out so we can get that "Franchise QB" that we are so longing for? The hell with playing to win, working hard to get better. It's all about that mystic Super Bowl winning QB. I want a QB that can be a 10 to 15 year starter as much as you but, I cannot support nor believe a franchise, Carolina or anyone else tanking for a draft pick.

True If we can run the ball, which is McAdoo forte, it takes a ton of pressure off the QB. PJ looked so much better we'll see how thing go next week.

Is it a coincidence or Bozeman makes our offensive line that much better.

I cannot remember when our defense was this smothering. First half 4 punts and end of half. Brady was stymied all day. Even without Horn we controlled their passing game and our defensive line controlled the running game. It was a brilliant game plan and maybe made Brady consider retirement. LOL Great Job Coach Holcomb

He did well today, no major mistakes. A couple of really bad throws but over a good day for him. He can thank that offensive line who gave him time to throw and open running lanes for our RBs. PJ 3-1 career LOL

I would rather be a homer and hope each game we play well than to be Mr Tank every season so we can get your favorite College player. I've been a member of this forum for most of its existence and many that are with me are always pulling for a win regardless of record. Can't you enjoy the day. We beat the hated Bucs.

If you're pissed off because we ruined your dream of the first pick. Please pick another team to cheer for. The Panthers didn't just win this game. The DOMINATED THE BUCS. Our defense is legitimate top 10 and will keep us in games. WAY TO GO PANTHERS

This has been my point all along. Many coaches, GM and even owners have said. Once you hit camp your draft status means nothing. Corral is expected to miss OTA, and minicamps. They don't do a bunch of hitting there anyhow. It's not impossible for Corral to be ready to compete in August when Camp starts. Uphill battle, no doubt, impossible I don't think so.

Many don't like Fitterer but it's hard to tell when Rhule had his finger on the draft especially 2021. Marshall seems to be a Brady pick because he played at LSU. I'm not 100% convinced he can't still be a good pick. However, we did get two solid picks in Horn and Christensen. Icky was a solid pick and we didn't miss on him. Corral is a complete unknown which really sucks because we are forced to take a QB in this draft. I still have high hopes Brandon Smith comes around. He has shown he's got so skills. That said, if we somehow obtain multiple 1st round picks we need to hit 100% on each of them. If the value is not there for our needs, trade down or trade for 2024.

@rayzor His idea is to gut the team now including Horn and Moore. If you get picks this year you can trade those picks for picks next year while also gaining capital this year. I personally don't want to see any more of our talent traded away but if you are going to trade Burns than we are in full rebuild mode and accumulating picks will be the draw for a new head coach.

Makes sense. The more picks in 2023 the better. I'm not talking rounds 4-7. I am talking rounds 1-3. These are the rounds where you can get starter talent. I am in agreement with a couple of the other posters. If Philly is in the Burns sweepstakes than their two first round picks puts them at the head of the line. The other players you mentioned we MUST get good value for them. I don't want to see DJ or Horn go for any less than what we drafted them plus some. Moore and Horn are 1st rounders. I want 1st rounders and at minimum one additional day 2 pick. If you are going to gut this team and rebuild. Than, I would like most of those picks this year and some next. Just imagining our own 1st, Philly's two 1st, two additional 1st for Horn and DJ. That's 5 first rounders. Currently two 2nds, three 3rds (Horn and DJ) and our lower round picks. You could take a couple of those 1st rounders, trade down for even more picks. We would make a huge haul as long as Fitterer doesn't pull a Hurney with the 2nd rounders. That said we would be looking at another losing season in 2023 only because we have so many inexperienced players but going into 2024. Watch out.

So you're saying our new head coach is going to hand the job to #1 pick. OK if you say so. BUT YOU'RE WRONG as usual

The whole point of the conversation is whoever is going to be our HC is going to let both QBs compete for the job. No HC is going to just give the job to the #1 pick. It is not a good move by any coach just to hand the job at any position to a high draft choice. Most coaches say, draft position doesn't matter once you start workouts. Tell me I'm wrong.

I agree the new coach is going to give his opinion on who the best QB in the draft is and will want him to succeed. That said, any coach worth his salt is going to let them compete and if his pick is the better player than he'll start. However, if Corral outplays him he is not going to snub him and go with his pick just to prove his pick is right. Unless his name is Matt Rhule. This is also a unique situation where you have a QB that was drafted the previous year without any tape on him. Corral has attributes that any coach would be happy to work with.

Same as you can't bet on any of these QBs in this draft class to be Allen, Hebert or Burrows. I good coach is going to put the best player out there regardless of draft order.

And I am saying that is a foolish thing to do. You give your young QBs an equal opportunity and whoever plays better wins the job.

Never said he was a sure thing. My point is that he should get an opportunity to compete for the job. @stan786 implies that Corral won't get shot and will be nothing but an afterthought.

Yeah and based on history there are many #1 picks that are busts. We got one on our roster!!!

You're just so sure that Corral is a bust, I get it. You'd rather believe that our first round pick is automatically the answer. GOT IT. I'll wait until the offseason and see for myself. It benefits us that we give both a clean shot. If one outshines the other but both play well, we have trade capital.

You nor I know truthfully, you make assumptions base off two preseason games on a QB that never got any real reps or your desire to have Stroud or Young.

Very short sided opinion. Kind of like how Atlanta treated Favre huh? Or Tampa treated Steve Young. Or SD did with Brees. Better yet, GB did with Warner.

Not even close. He might be third if we bring a vet in but he's not going to the practice squad. We'd lose him in a minute.

I wouldn't mind seeing Minshew TBH. Stop gap only.

So you're saying PJ and Corral competed....That's the funniest thing you said during this little debate. You and I both know that was never the case. PJ nor Corral were given any decent time under center during camp. Rhule never gave Corral a shot. Rhule was ecstatic that Corral got hurt because PJ was going to be on the roster at all cost including keeping 4 QBs.