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The browns upgraded and so did we. And when all is set and done we may have gotten the quarterback with a better future

This is the first thing I’ve read that has definitely names one looking better than the other. That is a good thing that is for the best. One of them needs to stand out. Anything but a definitive answer to this will only cause problems the first ounce of adversity that arises during the year

Best case is he looks so good that they are comfortable outright cutting the loser of the baker/darnold battle for starter and he’s set as backup during the year

If baker loses to mayfield we have much bigger questions going into this season!

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all that stat gives me is hope. maybe we aren’t too far away from competing ?

Darnold cost a lotttt more for the panthers to bring in than baker. I could see a situation where if they are both even and no clear front runner, Rhule picks darnold to try and save face and say that their original assessment was correct. I think this team still has more invested in Sam being a success over baker i also think that baker will win the job, hands down, and there will not have to been anything contemplating after a few days of training camp

I haven’t had the feel of truthfully meaningful football (excluding first few weeks which is ‘meaningful’ to everyone) since before I had kids that understood the thought of being able to finally explain what an important game is to my son seems like a welcome feeling. Beats the hell outta having to find something else to keep them busy all Sunday afternoon..

The draft position of all those qbs really makes you think about the worth of tanking… losing for the future isn’t ever a guarantee

How about his 4th quarter stats (where we were 1-7 in 1 score games)? Something tells me those won’t look quite as nice and that has a direct correlation with why Cleveland has a new quarterback

The only way better is for players to make more plays. No one questions dj moore, Brian burns, Jeremy chinn, etc. I know you can’t compare talent but he was paid right before the seasons. When that happens expectations naturally come and he wasn’t even in the ballpark of meeting those expectations. his prior success with darnold probably also had something to do with the excitement thinking he could recreate that

I to like the panthers. I will root for the panthers to win this year if the panthers win this year, I will like Matt Rhule if the panthers lose this year, I will deal with consequences at that point i will understand that there is no changing our head coach now, and will understand that although I don’t agree, the entire league currently has the same record and at this time last year the bengals were no better than us

In my mind anything less than 10 wins this year and Rhule needs to be fired. No in between.

Logic makes no sense. If baker is good enough to save Rhules job then the team shows progress and he gets a long term extension. if he’s horrible Rhule gets fired and baker walks next year. that’s the only 2 options here

I disagree that it’s worse when your team is bad. I find it much harder to get through an off-season when you have expectations for the panthers to win the super bowl next year. Enjoy your summer knowing that you have no reason for fall to come other than to be pleasantly surprised by an overachieving team. If not, we are right back where we started.

Aliens may come down and abduct him to study his ability to see ghosts on earth

I’ve been to a few playoff games and I beg to differ. Winning cures all problems

In their defense only like 5-6 of those games had a home crowd. The rest were overrun with visiting fans that actually saw hope in their teams future success and thought the investment of a ticket purchase was worth it.

Matt Rhule may be the smartest coach OF ALL TIME.

Counterpoint: we didn’t have a deep ball threat with bridgewater because he literally could not throw the ball further than 15 yards with his noodle arm and glove. Darnold didn’t have a deep ball because he was scared of getting his head taken off before the wife receivers could even get 15 yards down the field. hopefully both of those issues are fixed with our new OL and QB

It’s important that our head coach for weeks 7-18 supports the quarterback he’s going to be coaching and interviewing with

Cam has not proven anything over the last few years. He is as big of a risk as anyonfe

Patrick mahomes did not play his rookie year

So he can become cam Newton and not let past mistake define him or he can become Johnny manziel and never grow up. For a third rounder the risk is probably worth it and I’m not saying he can become the same player as cam, just that he can grow and potentially let his talents define him as opposed to his antics