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I was told he's a franchise QB and we beat Buffalo if he played...you're just hating on Bryce. *end sarcasm* Honestly, I support him because he's our QB, but stati, and via the eye test he wasn't worth the investment, or the draft slot.

The ''use it'' part is likely to carry over into 2026...that's an advantage as we move forward. Considering the cap hell, and void years under Fitterer this level of discipline, and mature moves is what allows you to operate with actual cap space like other well run teams.

Who was there to be had that is CHEAPER, AND ALSO BETTER than Dalton...

Because so many of them had Bryce as GENERATIONAL. They don't want to go back, so most stay quiet. I support him because he's our QB, but I'm far from sold on him long term.

You're telling on yourself with that last sentence. That's THE WHOLE point...Baker, and Sam as examples given both had very good NFL arm talent. Baker got CLEVELAND to the playoffs....Sam needed to develop mentally in my opinion. Neither lacked NFL measurables, or top end arm talent. For as intelligent as Bryce may be, he's never going to have high end NFL physical traits, or consistent vertical accuracy, that limits an offense. With that in mind, "what he does well" aka "processing" doesn't really matter because he can't consistently and accurately attack all three levels of a defense. He's yet to show it consistently. He's a 15 and under threat, and good defensive teams sit on it. Thats why in the times we've seen Andy, whether with Reich, or Canales the passing game "all of a sudden" opens up. I'm not saying Andy is "better" but I am not blind to the fact that he can "execute more" of the vertical aspects of an NFL offense. Just look at the close out completion to Legette as an example, along with Legette's uptick in production last year when Andy played.

I find it odd that as soon as a QB that is capable of throwing the ball downfield enters the game, XL's production goes up...who'd have thought the WR needs the QB to throw them the ball to produce.

I remember The Golden Calf of Bristol winning a Heisman, I remember Matt Leinart winning one, Vince Young...among others, why are we trying to justify NFL ineptitude via collegiate accolades, on ONE of the best teams in college that year....??? When you gotta go back to college THREE years into his career that should tell you something.

This, all these people hyping him while on a ROOKIE DEAL!

XL gameball!

XL's a BUST, he can't catch...nah a QB that can SEE him, and can throw downfield outside the numbers accurately played today. XL came alive with Dalton last year too, its not a coincidence, the pace of our offense is completely different with Andy. Not saying he should be the starter BUT he highlights Bryce's limitarions.

This, Bryce lacks NFL physical traits, and physical ability. Be as smart as you wanna be, if you can't consistently and accurately attack all three levels of the defense your offense will be limited.

No.

We're playing backs at key spots s ross half games so far....inconsistent pass pro is gonna be hard to overcome.

This, 1st receiver taken versus the 7th receiver taken in XL. 8th pick, vs 32nd pick. Go watch the A22, Bryce has missed XL a few times on TDs, and big gains.

Let me start by saying I really like our receivers, top to bottom. I am only posting so that some people will maybe relax a little... Rookie Season: XL - 6 drops per PFR (7 by PFF) total, 32nd overall selection, 7th WR taken. TMac - 3 drops per PFF total, through 6 games. 1st "true" WR off the board, 8th overall. ------------------- Again this is not designed to flame either player but just to point out that there is going to be some growing pains as our young guy develop, especially when we're asking them to be "the" guy as a rookie. We asked this of XL as rookie when Dj was traded, and Thielen was out with the hamstring for a considerable amount of time after the Raiders game. Now TMac is in a similar position, as like with XL last year he's being asked to be the "X" receiver. Both are "1st round" selections by name, but 8th vs 32 overall are not remotely coming with the same set of expectations. Let's be happy the GM, Coach, and scouts got two young receivers they're high on, and as a fan I'm intrigued by the skill set each offers. If you go back and watch the all 22, Bryce missed XL this past week for a TD, and and large opportunity on a deep cross. That is not intended to "poo" on Bryce, its just whats on the tape. He's missed others, just like there have also been some drops from others as well this season. Point is we are .500 (3‐3) at the moment, if the trajectory continues on the young players development, we may have an offense to get excited about. Good view if you have yet to see it.

Y'all so weird "1st round" pick, we had 33, and moved to 32 to get the 5th year option. He's a 2nd round pick, that they made a smart move at basically no cost to secure contract cintrol. He was roughly the 6th or 7th guy taken...thats why he was still there...the team knew they were drafting his overall potential and it would take some time. AT THE TIME, we had Dj, and Thielen to insulate his development. McConkey played slot we had Thielen...which is who a lot of you wanted. Dude put up 4 TDs (more than Mingo and TMJ combined if memory serves) and just under 500 yds, raw as a rookie...thrust into a role he was not supposed to fill. He's also missed time this season, and had a game vs ARI where the bulk of his targets were dirt balls, and overthrows. The expectations y'all have are wild...

No, stay the course, add via FA / Draft.

Damn.

Legette by verified numbers is faster, and also not 5'8, and I like Horn too. XL - 4.39 JHJ - 4.4 Both combine numbers, we've had speed...we just added some more. XL was hurt, Jimmy was DNPCD. Jameson Williams Bryces deep threat in college, is arguably faster than both but didn't test due to his ACL injury. The issue at the NFL level is you don't face Alcorn States secondary with WRs running free.

This, people keep trying to coddle a guy we gave up a 1st swap, future 1st (no.1 overall), future 2nd, and DJ Moore. And some of you are patting his back for just "average" play if that. Bryce HAS TO ELEVATE this team in order to validate the investment, and any future considerations regarding an extension of 50M + etc. He has NOT lived up to being the no.1 overall pick, I'm glad we won...but I'm still not sold on Bryce, we need to continue looking to improve the QB position.

Have you watched him play...have you not heard Canales, through the media tell EJ and the defensive staff to play the young talent...this is at least a year over due.

The Nicole Tepper piece is not a joke btw... https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2023/06/27/2023-nfl-draft-panthers-nicole-tepper-trade-call-dj-johnson/79772532007/

Rico is a 1K back, he just didn't get paid like Chuba, and he's a better pass catcher than Chuba, even though Chuba has improved. WE WERE DOWN 20+ where do people think these extra carries are going to come from. The fact we got in 19 between them is surprising. Talk about how Bryce can't hit open wide open receivers...

Before last season if memory serves, then Rod Wave had to give him a pep talk was the running joke, but I think it actually happened.

No one said that, but QBs ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ON TEAM. If your QB is limited, your team is limited. With consistency in the competency dept. we could at least be a .500 club. So not only is Bryce limited with his on the field skill set...he's not consistently competent. Which spells disaster.