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Bryce is not better than Stroud. While Tepper has made Fitterer and Morgan invest endless resources in the offense to protect his billionaire pride Houston has made countless dumb decisions to hurt their QB’s development. Stroud has won 2 division championships. His top 2 receivers have missed significant time. Houston traded away their pro bowl left tackle after last season. Who does that to a 3rd year QB? As I type this Stroud is in the concussion protocol for the 2nd time due to their GM’s inept decision making Now Panther fans take snap shots of statistics and try to say Bryce is better in the last 14 to 16 games. If you watch them play it’s clear which QB will be starting in the NFL for the foreseeable future.

Hey bro you gotta admit that was funny.

I’m not a fan of Bryce either but I truly believe Tepper has a hand in the QB situation. There is no way a former pro bowl linebacker with a history of front office training with the Seahawks and Bills front office doesn’t understand the need for depth and competition

Thinking Bryce is top 20 is pretty delusional, but you won’t win a Super Bowl in Carolina with the 20th best QB. Our GM isn’t capable of loading a roster like Philly. Not with Tepper as the owner. It’s time to start over at QB

In addition to his weak arm he has to compensate in the pocket by throwing off his toes due to his height. Respectfully, its a handicap.

CeeDee Lamb got hurt in week 3. The Cowboys were rolling without him. Not sure what you meant by this. Our defense was the 1st to slow the Cowboys down some. Statistically before the game the Cowboys were ranked in the top 3 of the league.

Mainly because Bryce does not throw the ball well down the field. I think he has a niche, but probably not with Bryce. He’s going to have to find little holes in the zone to be successful with BY

Yeah that 48 points hung was because of the defense. Wentz was more a game manager last week. TJ Hockenson hasn't done much this season either. I watched that game and the Vikings suffocated the Bengals. The defense caused 5 turnovers, one being a pick 6. I was speaking to the macrocosm not the anomaly from last week. We agree on AT’s age.

35 with a rookie QB that came from a run 1st offense in college. I’m not surprised.

Lol Bryce wasn’t ready and he still isn’t. His footwork is atrocious. If we go Sellers I would expect this organization to bring in a viable veteran or let Bryce ride out his 4th season without the 5th year option. Either way it’s time. I do not want to derail the thread entirely. I completely agree with the OP, and the posts in this thread. I am hopeful we can get our generational leader in the 2nd round since linebacker value has decreased. Three intelligent dawgs in Arvell Reese, Perkins and Weeks.

Definitely. You hit it on the head. Think about the talented pieces we had on our roster before we allowed Chicago to r@pe us. Frankie Luvu, Chinn, Burns, DJ Moore plus wherever our 1st & 2nd round picks would have landed in 2024 and 25. We could have picked from the talented QB class in the 2024 draft. Daniels, Maye, Penix and Nix have already outplayed Bryce. We just needed to practice patience and prudence. Nope not this team.

Are you responding from a Bryce Young family member burner account? Think about what we gave up for the rights to draft Bryce? Panthers could have drafted CJ Stroud, if we had a competent front office. Not only that that we lost the number 1 overall pick last season (potentially Jayden Daniels) AND the loss of DJ Moore. The last 4 seasons we have invested our 1st round picks on offensive players. While the defense sucks the investment still doesn’t come close to the resources put in the offense. We just scored 10 points against the 4 win Jaguars with the youngest coach in the league.

So sad but true. I was amazed how he got up from that duck ball and big hit.

I wholeheartedly agree with you, but I also see it from the player angle too. Dan probably feels like it breaks the brotherhood code as a former player to completely roast a current young player. It hurts Bryce’s ability with future teams and his possible future outlook. The Panthers can be done, but don’t send him to the grave without the chance of a reclamation project.

Sheeesh laying out like that reminds me of how dumb and quickly Tepper torpedoed this franchise.

I am just curious on your perspective. How would that help us in 2026 and beyond? We had to pull him out of retirement with additional $$$ just to play. This was Thielen’s last year. If AT was 30 years old and planned to play for 3 more years I understand the uproar. If Bryce can’t make it without a 35 year one year rental this year, he will not make it in 2026 and beyond. We need to rip the band-aid off and see if he is a franchise QB to build around. If not, we draft a QB again and potentially start over with Canales pick at QB.

Come on bro, of course I know you don’t get paid if you sit out. That’s why the players call it game checks, which are prorated payments for games outside of bonuses. Like I said, I agree he probably wouldn’t have sat out, but when you’re a multimillionaire with a simple life, your future is set. AT’s life is not dependent on money. Don’t confuse his life with the plight of the ordinary man. I have never been a professional athlete but I understand the importance of locker room culture and distractions. Forcing AT to be here would not have gone well.

You’re probably right on that hypothetical sit out situation. I actually agree. I just feel we have coddled Bryce for two seasons. It’s time to sink or swim. Thielen was not going to be here next year, and we have a QB decision to make. There are some pretty good QB’s coming out this year so we need to know if it’s time to move on. This season will give it to us all, raw and unfiltered.

Adam Thielen is a millionaire that we had to talk out of retirement. How do you think forcing him to be here would have helped us when his home team called? He sits out, then essentially he is retired (as he originally wanted) and our salary cap is hit without the return. In addition our young locker room has a huge distraction. Think outside what you may have wanted and you will clearly see we only had one option.

I don’t understand why this is so hard most of the board to understand. Sound like we missed the other day when we could have gotten a 4th rounder at Thielen’s peak. AT wants to go home to Minnesota and quite frankly if Bryce can’t do it without AT he isn’t a franchise QB. We are not a Super Bowl contender this year. Holding Thielen hostage during his last year in the league will not change that.

Hoping for a speedy recovery. Prayers up.

I want to laugh and hope it’s a joke but somehow I believe this to be true.

You’re joking right? Guy has been here about 7 days and he was expected to play the most difficult position on the field from a mental standpoint. He actually outplayed Plummer. Better completion % QBR, no turnovers.

Did you watch the video? He said that

In addition, there’s the train of thought by some to move him to linebacker. He was already small for a 4-3 linebacker, he definitely wouldn’t have worked in our 3-4 scheme. I was upset about losing Luvu, but I am in agreement with you, it was time for Chinn to move on.