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Definitely. You hit it on the head. Think about the talented pieces we had on our roster before we allowed Chicago to r@pe us. Frankie Luvu, Chinn, Burns, DJ Moore plus wherever our 1st & 2nd round picks would have landed in 2024 and 25. We could have picked from the talented QB class in the 2024 draft. Daniels, Maye, Penix and Nix have already outplayed Bryce. We just needed to practice patience and prudence. Nope not this team.

Are you responding from a Bryce Young family member burner account? Think about what we gave up for the rights to draft Bryce? Panthers could have drafted CJ Stroud, if we had a competent front office. Not only that that we lost the number 1 overall pick last season (potentially Jayden Daniels) AND the loss of DJ Moore. The last 4 seasons we have invested our 1st round picks on offensive players. While the defense sucks the investment still doesn’t come close to the resources put in the offense. We just scored 10 points against the 4 win Jaguars with the youngest coach in the league.

So sad but true. I was amazed how he got up from that duck ball and big hit.

I wholeheartedly agree with you, but I also see it from the player angle too. Dan probably feels like it breaks the brotherhood code as a former player to completely roast a current young player. It hurts Bryce’s ability with future teams and his possible future outlook. The Panthers can be done, but don’t send him to the grave without the chance of a reclamation project.

Sheeesh laying out like that reminds me of how dumb and quickly Tepper torpedoed this franchise.

I am just curious on your perspective. How would that help us in 2026 and beyond? We had to pull him out of retirement with additional $$$ just to play. This was Thielen’s last year. If AT was 30 years old and planned to play for 3 more years I understand the uproar. If Bryce can’t make it without a 35 year one year rental this year, he will not make it in 2026 and beyond. We need to rip the band-aid off and see if he is a franchise QB to build around. If not, we draft a QB again and potentially start over with Canales pick at QB.

Come on bro, of course I know you don’t get paid if you sit out. That’s why the players call it game checks, which are prorated payments for games outside of bonuses. Like I said, I agree he probably wouldn’t have sat out, but when you’re a multimillionaire with a simple life, your future is set. AT’s life is not dependent on money. Don’t confuse his life with the plight of the ordinary man. I have never been a professional athlete but I understand the importance of locker room culture and distractions. Forcing AT to be here would not have gone well.

You’re probably right on that hypothetical sit out situation. I actually agree. I just feel we have coddled Bryce for two seasons. It’s time to sink or swim. Thielen was not going to be here next year, and we have a QB decision to make. There are some pretty good QB’s coming out this year so we need to know if it’s time to move on. This season will give it to us all, raw and unfiltered.

Adam Thielen is a millionaire that we had to talk out of retirement. How do you think forcing him to be here would have helped us when his home team called? He sits out, then essentially he is retired (as he originally wanted) and our salary cap is hit without the return. In addition our young locker room has a huge distraction. Think outside what you may have wanted and you will clearly see we only had one option.

I don’t understand why this is so hard most of the board to understand. Sound like we missed the other day when we could have gotten a 4th rounder at Thielen’s peak. AT wants to go home to Minnesota and quite frankly if Bryce can’t do it without AT he isn’t a franchise QB. We are not a Super Bowl contender this year. Holding Thielen hostage during his last year in the league will not change that.

Hoping for a speedy recovery. Prayers up.

I want to laugh and hope it’s a joke but somehow I believe this to be true.

You’re joking right? Guy has been here about 7 days and he was expected to play the most difficult position on the field from a mental standpoint. He actually outplayed Plummer. Better completion % QBR, no turnovers.

Did you watch the video? He said that

In addition, there’s the train of thought by some to move him to linebacker. He was already small for a 4-3 linebacker, he definitely wouldn’t have worked in our 3-4 scheme. I was upset about losing Luvu, but I am in agreement with you, it was time for Chinn to move on.

Fine with me there are other QB’s with just as much talent

If our offense is lighting it up (Top 10 minimum) I think you consider making a change if the defense is not in the top 18 statistically. Realistically you don’t go from worst ever to top 10 unit but as you stated in your initial post “Show us something sheesh” Since we have a lot of young players I say the sweet spot is around game 7 or 8. I’m not opposed to letting him finish the year though because our roster is still void of high end talent. I don’t think we have a playoff roster. I absolutely would like a change after this season unless we are a top 15ish defense. I just haven’t seen enough. I disagree with many on the forum though. I would like to continue to run the 3-4.

When I read the list I was looking for XL. In my opinion that has to be top 5. He is faster than every receiver on the team and probably stronger than any receiver. If he catches with his hands and he has fixed his drop issue the league better beware.

Yeah when I read the article I immediately wondered if the Bengals representation was telling the truth. I think there would have been more 1st rounders kicking up dust, if legitimately so.

I believe the Niners think they copied the Eagles formula but the Niners roster isn’t as good. We will see this season for sure with CMC coming back.

“Too hype” Probably but we have stunk as a result of Tepper and the idea that Morgan and Canales are turning the corner is exciting. I’ll take it

Yeah I agree he played well considering the pash rush and porous rush defense. He has nice size, he is a solid tackler but he could use refinement in coverage. My point was geared toward continued improvement in the system and being able to diagnose routes faster. A full offseason building communication within the secondary should enhance his performance.

I hope some of Horns technique and skill rubs off on Mike Jackson now that he has a full offseason in our defensive system.

Yeah you know the Panthers finally have made strides when two vets that have contributed across the league (Hunter Renfrow and David Moore) will probably fight it out for the last spot. Good problem to have.

Playing in our face with lottery outcomes that aren’t probable. That’s why they no longer show the ping pong balls. It’s rigged