CPantherKing

Tua throwing the game?

Alabama fandom runs deep. They want a QB room of Bryce, Tua, Mac and Jalen.

It was not a poor play call. Rico pulled the LB out of the 5 gap with a sealed running lane. Chuba did a lateral jump cut away from the hole to the right side of the OL. There was an easy 1 to 2 yards if Chuba runs off Ekwonu's block. The play call worked and the defense was moved. Chuba wasn't suppose to jump cut over to the right side with the defense crashing down unblocked from that side. The blocking was set up for the 3 or 5 gap off Ekwonu.

He's been the DC in the SB, but the reason the Jets can't win is because of him or because they traded their defensive leaders in Williams and Gardner for future picks and a rebuild? I am going to side with Wilks, Williams, Gardner, Rodgers, and Wilson for starters and not the ability for the Jets organization to make a proper assessment of their own team.

The standard for stepping up in the pocket is to the point at which the QB can still see over his OL, otherwise, there is no advantage to stepping up in the pocket to read the defense and work through the progressions. If he's stepping up in the pocket at that point, then he's running or looking to the flat for his hot. Ekwonu should be playing guard and Bryce is not an NFL QB for these critical game situations where his limitations are a weakness to the offense.

It wasn't the play calling or the preparation. It was the execution and on field communication in the final 11 minutes of the game with over an 80% win probability. It began on 3rd and short inside the opponents 40. Bryce audibled out to a QB run. TMac was set up for a one on one on the outside. Bryce identified the 6 gap property as the greatest chance of success, but failed to realize Chuba was confused on the audible leading to the blocking break down between Chuba and Tremble on Granderson. They were suppose to double Granderson and Tremble peels off to block the safety allowing Bryce to choose to go to the inside or outside off the double team based on where the safety commits. Chuba also messed up the 4th and 1 with poor vision and not trusting to go off the block of Ekwonu into a sealed running lane for an easy 1 yard gain. Why Chuba thought doing a lateral jump cut to the right side of the line when it was a dive to the left is puzzling.

Up a TD in 4Q with field position. Half a yard for a first down. 11 minutes on the clock. The probability of making a 52 yard FG is 71%, the probability of having a FG blocked is 2%, and the probability of a FG block being returned for a TD is 15%. The probability of a defense stuffing a run is 44%, the probability of a fumble is 1%, and the probability of a fumble being returned for a TD is 0.5%. With the lead, is a 15% success rate increase worth the 100% increase in turnover chance with a 2900% scoring opportunity increase for the defense? The opposing team only has 2 more drives with a possible 3rd drive in 4Q. The probability of an offense scoring back to back on their final 2 drives with long fields after only scoring 10 points in the first 50 minutes of the game is 10%. So, kicking the FG and missing it would still give the opposing team the same probability of scoring on their next 2 drives while giving them an increased chance of scoring on a blocked FG. Win probability would increase by 5-10% with a 1st down at that point and 10-15% with a FG. So, is an increase of 5% win probability worth the risk of messing up the FG? Keep in mind, the play call had an open gap that the RBs vision failed to see leading to the failed 4th down run. A failed FG would have been worse and it wasn't a chip shot. Canales made the right call by trusting Bryce, Chuba, the OL, and Evero at that moment. All 4 of them messed up though. This is also assuming the Panthers would not have any success of scoring a FG on their final 2 drives or having the defense keep the offense to FGs for the remainder of the last 11 minutes of the game, which we all were not factoring in. I don't believe taking the chance of the FG going wrong versus the 4th and 1 going wrong is worth lowering the Saints probability of winning by 5% as you are in control of the game at 80%+ win probability. The HC should challenge their team to play like a champion at that point and execute to win at least half of their matchups for the next 11 minutes. Canales made the right choice and trusted the team.

Can you see the open gap? Bad play call or poorly executed by Chuba? All you needed to do was run off Ekwonu to the defenders foot with some straight ahead power running. The play call pulled the LB from filling the gap between Ekwonu & Tremble. Jump cutting to the right side when the play is a 33 dive? Seems like a significant lack of vision & decision making by the RB was the main problem.

If it were that simple, Reich and Canales would have already done it. The next HC would have the same happen. If Canales is gone, I wouldn't be surprised if Tepper elevates Evero to keep him around with Bryce, Tremble and Chuba as agreed upon long term offensive pieces. I believe Reich and Canales would have gone different directions at QB and DC if they were allowed. Wilks even made it known this organization doesn't make the HC the primary partner in personnel decisions. Before the HC even gets a chance it likely goes Nicole > David > Dan > Brandt > Eric > Benjamin 1 > Benjamin 2 > HC I highly doubt hanging the HC wouldn't fix all the problems over his head.

Yeah, it would upset you. On 3rd down Bryce called his own number and lost. On 4th down Ekwonu lost by not being the low man and Chuba made the wrong decision. Both plays were there with a one on one matchup with TMac and an easier gap that was sealed off with half a step to the left and no defender in it. It was not the play calling on those 2 plays. It was the execution and awareness. Both plays were set up to be wins. The only thing I could say Canales should have done was put Chuba in the 2 spot and Rico in the 3 spot to take the handoff. Rico has better vision with reading gaps and blocks than Chuba. I understand how Canales was using Rico as a decoy with multiple LBs keying on him in that situation, but I'd rather Rico in a short yardage run to seal the game than Bryce or Chuba running the ball and needing to win that last half a yard with much needed power.

Canales trusted Bryce to get 1st downs on critical 3rd downs. Bryce decided he was a running QB. Go check out the ALL 22 and see what Bryce missed and how open the play call was on those 3rd downs. Canales trusted Evero to win the game if Bryce and the OL couldn't deliver 1st downs. Seems this is the way you want a HC to maneuver a team with the lead in 4Q. If the QB can't execute the plays and decides he's running it, and the DC can't call a defense to stop a rookie QB, you can't put it on the HC.

Do we keep forgetting that the HC should pick his QB and DC? Bryce and Evero are holding Canales back, and we can't judge a HC who has shown promise with one arm and one leg tied behind his back. Evero and Bryce were Reich picks, but I think we all know Tepper forced them on Reich too. I'm not sold on Canales, but I see enough promise to want to know what he can do with his QB and DC.

Tepper needs to let his vision of Evero and Bryce go. Let Canales work with Morgan to choose his own QBs and DC he can trust.

Lamar Jackson (32nd), Jordan Love (26th) , Jalen Hurts (53rd), Jaxson Dart (25th), and Tyler Shough (40th). The Panthers could have collected all of them over the years and additional picks for the same capital they gave up for Bryce Young (24th (DJ Moore), 9th, 1st, 39th, and 61st picks). Worst investment in Panthers history.

Like the QB sneak we needed, or that 1st down we needed him to power through, or the 3rd down we needed him to convert with his arm because he's fragile against a defense stopping him short? That QB is going to win big games? Do you not watch NFL football and what QBs need to do in those situations to win? Tyler Shough did it. Why couldn't Bryce Young with receivers who were getting open? Go watch the All 22 to see what Bryce missed