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Elite defense...

All the money and draft picks, and trades dumped into the DL...up by 31 and other than Wilson holding onto the ball for 15 seconds...we cannot get to him...

I am sure we will use yet another high draft pick on the DL though...

Good to see our elite defense in which we have dumped countless resource upon countless resource into is shutting down the Hawks...

9 minutes ago, MadHatter said:

Vikings defense played lights out. Only offense the Hawks could muster was the heave that Lockett came down with.  To say Minn defense is even remotely to blame is just idiotic.

If you are going to sit there and build your team around defense, to the point that you are taking resources away from your offense, your damn defense best not blow 9+ point leads in the 4th. The Vikings reside in this boat.

One of the biggest travesties about last year's Superbowl was how Seattle's defense got left off the hook because of that Wilson INT at the one. It should have never came down to that.

Seattle allowed Brady to go up and down the field in the 4th and blew a 14 point lead. 

If your supposed to be a defensive team...don't go blowing TD+ leads in the fourth.

This is exactly the reason why if the Panthers lose, unless the offense is turning over the ball, they should get the blame. If you are going to build around your defense. Then you die with your defense.

BTW, the same holds true for teams that dump a bunch of resources into their offense. i.e. the Colts, Packers, and Broncos.

EDIT: Minnesota defense was not really responsible for the FG as AP fumbled.

3 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

Dungy is such a toolbag it's laughable. Wilson was beyond terrible today and has never been good in the playoffs.

Well, there was that one game in Atlanta his rookie year where I have never seen a QB play as flawlessly in the second 1/2. He threw for like 300 and rushed for another 100 I think. The defense then allowed Matty Ice to beat them with like 25 seconds left.

Oh, and last year vs. us. I think Wilson had a perfect rating that game. Played fairly well in their first SB as well.

Does anyone think its crazy to draft a kicker in the top 25 of the draft? How many games comes down to the kicker? All the OTAs, all the training camps, all the games, blood, sweat and tears, and all too often a kicker decides who wins and loses.

Hell, it could be argued that the Pats would have 3 less SBs if not for their kicker.

Norv Turner has been awful at play-calling this entire year. It is almost as if passing is a trick play.

When will OCs and Head Coaches learn that you are not doing any favors to your QB or your offense if you are calling running plays 90% of the time on first down?

That tends to leave 3rd and longs and obvious passing situations so the defense can pin their ears back...

See that is exactly how Romo got hurt vs. us. Holding onto the ball on third and long and trying to make something happen.

Cam Newton also got hurt twice this season doing the same thing. QBs have got to SOMETIMES stop trying to play superman, and get rid of the ball.

So this is the reason the Panthers coaches our WR to just go down after a catch. I always wondered why this passing offense was "catch...down" "catch...down" and now I see perfectly why.

These WRs have got to be better than this. Everything cannot continually come off the right arm of Newton. When you catch the ball and have a one on one you have got to beat your guy.

I think we can safely ignore ThinkAboutIt.

I will say it again. This defense better be more stout than this. It is unbelievable to me that the front office can pour this much into this unit and this late into the season they are showing this kind of leakage.

If we are going to be a team that depends on our offense to win games. The LEAST the Panthers could do for Shula and Newton is actually build a talented offense.

I am sorry. But why is there never any YAC in our offense? Like ever? On that 3rd down throw prior to the 3 series of throws by Cam, Cotch caught the ball and heading straight to the ground.

Why does everything in this offense come off the right arm of Newton? (Except for that crossing route that was called back due to penalty)

We have got to get some WRs/TEs/RBs that we can check the ball down to and have them run.

3 minutes ago, Mark S said:

Titans did the same to the Saints last wekweek

Exactly. The Saints are the Saints. Marcus looked all world against that pathetic defense...

Just now, pstall said:

The offense needs to do the d a favor and have better drives late.

I like Southern hospitality but not with football.

This DAMN defense that the Front Office has dump a disproportionate amount of resources into need to learn how to so BLOWING double digit leads!

It is beyond pathetic for anyone to even suggest our offense needs to do more!

3 minutes ago, CLG said:

Offense has to help the D. 

And this ladies and gentlemen is what is wrong with Panther's nation.

Whine about the offense not helping the defense in November...

Completely silent or even supportive of the Front Office dumping resources after resources into the defense.

Then state that the offense needs to help the defense out more...LOL!

13 minutes ago, Datawire said:

To be fair the Winston is a rookie playing a divisional rival in their house and going into his first NFL over time game.

And on that play...Winston was without his top FOUR targets:

Evans

Jackson

ASJ

Murphy

LOL at the moronic huddle. But this is how they acted when Newton was a rookie so no surprise...

All off season the Huddle supported our FO decision to dump resources into our defense at the expense of our offense...It is time for this DEFENSE to step up.

You guys also claim that Wilson is a horrible QB that shouldn't even be in the league. Yet somehow he forever is moving the ball on our "elite defense."

Don't look to Cam or this limited offense. Look to our multi million dollar defense and head coach..

Why did we run fake twice on the the goal line? Did anybody really think that was going to fool the Saints?

Once again, where the hell were you in the off season: at the start of free agency and the draft; DEMANDING that the Panthers do more than just acquire a second round WR or bring in a Kick off return specialist?

Again, (idiotic) Panthers fans complaining in September when the games begin DEMANDING our offense score more than 24 points, but are COMPLETELY silent (even mocking) Panthers fans who DEMAND upgrades to the offense when something ACTUALLY can be done.

If you didn't say anything in March, April, and May...STFU now.

lol at these officials. He clearly went under the hood, check the clock, and then came back out and "confirmed" with the back judge there was 17 seconds left.

lol.

See I knew someone was going to say this.

After the game I will post, to this thread, all the threads acting like if ANYONE complains about the WRs or offense in general they were retarded.

Will you people please shut up. If you wanted an explosive offense you should have been complaining about Panthers only adding a second round WR to a mediocre offense last year.

Every year it is the same thing. Complain about the offense in September. Act like the offensive personnel is great in March and April.

Once again. Zero YAC on that drive. Everything cannot come off the right arm of Newton.