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Well, the Niners just doomed themselves to mediocrity
fanpanther replied to LinvilleGorge's topic in Carolina Panthers
I agree 100% people keep talking about how loaded their team was but the star guys are almost always injured and last yearpurdy had no one at all and still put up good numbers. As a panther fan i would be thrilled for purdys worse season wish more people would actually look at his stats u could argue his worse season is better than all but 1 or 2 cam seasons for the panthers. It will be interesting to see how some players do away from purdy i believe he actually makes alot of them better. But all moot if they make the playoffs again this year the contract was worth it -
Well, the Niners just doomed themselves to mediocrity
kungfoodude replied to LinvilleGorge's topic in Carolina Panthers
He is a bum. Anyone who had seen NFL QB's for more than a couple of seasons can easily ID that. -
Well, the Niners just doomed themselves to mediocrity
SmokinwithWilly replied to LinvilleGorge's topic in Carolina Panthers
Not really. Year after year they find a way to win, even with bad decisions. Maybe its a good contract, maybe its a bad one. The only way to determine if the contract is good is by the results. You're saying its a horrible contract but if he leads them to 3 SBs, I'd call it a great contract. Time will ultimately determine the value. -
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SOJA replied to Panthers Fan 69's topic in Carolina Hurricanes
not the biggest canes fan but I've been watching them more this year, such a fun sport. I'm impressed with how Svetch is playing. (again I'm a noob when it comes to hockey) - Yesterday
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Well, the Niners just doomed themselves to mediocrity
LinvilleGorge replied to LinvilleGorge's topic in Carolina Panthers
People are using this "three year period" to gloss over the reality that he was very mid last year and in Purdy's case, "last year" means 40% of his starts. I don't "hate" Purdy, I just think he's a very middle of the pack starter and you can't pay those guys $50M+ a year. GMs and coaches can because they just want to keep their jobs. But as a fanbase if you're wanting to compete for SBs, ugh... you're basically resigning yourself to mediocrity with decisions like this. -
Unless a miracle happens and we're legit SB contenders, I want to just miss the playoffs due to some close losses, not win the division to lose in the first round. We finally have all of our picks again next year, I'd rather be picking 5-7 spots higher in each round, while at the same time, then having a 2nd or 3rd place schedule next year instead of a 1st place one. I just can't see any scenario where we are true contenders this year, but we should find out if Bryce can be our QB of the future. If he isn't, then we're not making the playoffs anyways and will have a high pick to replace him. If he is, it means 2026 is the real opening of our SB window once we add some more defensive pieces, so I'd rather go into that season picking earlier and have an easier schedule. And yes, I know people will say think like "you need to win to gain confidence and experience, blah blah blah" But just missing out on the playoffs because you lost couple close games is certainly a way to make a team hungry going into the offseason and keep them motivated to be better. I've said it before and still think it holds true, we need to look at the Lions and hope to repeat their path. Our last few years were their early 2020s when they sucked. This year can be our version of their 2022 when they missed the playoffs in week 17. Then our 2026 can be their 2023 when they made a run to the NFC Championship game (and really should have won it). Which then puts us in line to be one of the best teams in the league going into 2027, as they were last year.
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Well, the Niners just doomed themselves to mediocrity
tukafan21 replied to LinvilleGorge's topic in Carolina Panthers
Hmmmmm, sounds like a familiar fear And sure, a big part of my fear was the injury concern (that will always follow Bryce around) but the everything else I said is the same. If he's too good to let walk in FA but not good enough to justify a top end contract, we're in the worst possible situation -
Well, the Niners just doomed themselves to mediocrity
SOJA replied to LinvilleGorge's topic in Carolina Panthers
how much of that is Kyle Shanahan though ? Don't get me wrong Purdy is not a bad QB, but to me he is pretty average -
Well, the Niners just doomed themselves to mediocrity
SOJA replied to LinvilleGorge's topic in Carolina Panthers
the scariest part of Bryce to me is what if he's good not great? Because that's how you end up with Tua contracts I wouldn't be surprised if very soon we see teams moving on from average QBs or letting them test free agency. Tepper has invested a ton in analytics I could see us doing it too. 9ers are different because this is Shannahans guy. But the dolphins i bet you are loathing having paid Tua too early. -
Well, the Niners just doomed themselves to mediocrity
tukafan21 replied to LinvilleGorge's topic in Carolina Panthers
Eh, not convinced he's a bum, but also not saying he's a star either. If there was any coaching staff in recent memory that was worse than ours with Rhule, it was the Jets staff during Darnold's time there. I honestly just don't think we really know who Darnold is as a player yet because of it, this season will be very telling, he genuinely could be a bust or a solid above average starter and I wouldn't be surprised either way. -
Well, the Niners just doomed themselves to mediocrity
kungfoodude replied to LinvilleGorge's topic in Carolina Panthers
Not saying you are wrong but Baker had a ton of success prior to us and Darnold was a massive bust. Basically the best he has ever been was last season on an insanely loaded roster with an insanely loaded coaching staff. He is a bum. -
Fox's McKenna says we win the division enjoy this exerpt Interesting that we are in the longest playoff drought ever. A little odd for a team that has never had back to back winning seasons. But we are an odd franchise. More at the link. Also, has us losing in our first playoff game, but I'll take it.
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Yawn theyre so obsessed with fairness that the enjoyment factor is sucked out of it going the route of the nba
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Well, the Niners just doomed themselves to mediocrity
tukafan21 replied to LinvilleGorge's topic in Carolina Panthers
Darnold and Baker both bombed here with the same team and coaching and then both went on to look pretty darn good afterwards. I'm not saying Darnold (or Baker) is some elite QB, but I don't put their issues here on either of them, that staff was a joke. -
Well, the Niners just doomed themselves to mediocrity
BEASTfromdaEAST replied to LinvilleGorge's topic in Carolina Panthers
I dont get it either. I would take Purdy over Bryce 10 out of 10 -
The only way to fix it, is to go to 16 teams in playoffs, first week would be top 2 teams in division play for the division title. The second week then go by records. Since we have division’s, we need a reward for division leaders if we go to conference records, top teams should be in the playoffs. no divisions, play all teams in your conference with 2 out of conference games. Then I could see them using conference standing for the playoff seedings
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Well, the Niners just doomed themselves to mediocrity
rmoneyg35 replied to LinvilleGorge's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don’t get the hate for Purdy. You don’t put up those kind of numbers in a 3 year period just because you’re on a good team or have good coaching. Despite all the injuries to his own team and injuries to himself he still had a 96 qb rating and has a qb rating of 104.9 in 3 years over 40 games. Heck he was in the mvp race in the 2023 season. -
Well, the Niners just doomed themselves to mediocrity
bythenbrs replied to LinvilleGorge's topic in Carolina Panthers
I wonder if Team Bryce realizes that this year he is playing for his next contract; that this is make or break for him. If he doesn’t shoot the lights out this year, I don’t think the team passes on the QB’s coming out next year. Better won’t be enough to keep the team from drafting another first round QB. We’ve given him the tools, including T-Mac. No more excuses. He needs to look like the number 1 pick. -
Well, the Niners just doomed themselves to mediocrity
kungfoodude replied to LinvilleGorge's topic in Carolina Panthers
One could argue the same for Goff(far better than Jimmy G, mind you). I think fans often get enamored with the Tier 2 and even Tier 3 QB's at times. Hell, portions of our fanbase are STILL fooled by Sam Darnold, despite him bombing so badly here. -
Well, the Niners just doomed themselves to mediocrity
LinvilleGorge replied to LinvilleGorge's topic in Carolina Panthers
Which is completely irrelevant to the current conversation. They've doomed themselves to what we've historically been by making a really dumb call. For such an offensive guru, Shanahan sure has made some dumb calls at QB. First the Lance debacle and now the Purdy contract. I don't give them much credit for "finding" Purdy with the last pick in the draft, same as I don't really credit the Pats for "finding" Brady in the 6th. Everyone in the league passed those guys up over and over again. It was just horse poo luck.
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