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What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
tukafan21 replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
WHAT?!?!?!?! Honestly for the life of me, I can't figure out what you're saying here. How are you saying their supporting casts cancel each other out and Hunter STILL had the better season? The supporting cast is LITERALLY the reason that he had the better season statistically. If you put T-Mac on Colorado in place of Hunter, I'm 100% convinced he'd have had better stats than Hunter did, as he already had almost the same number of catches, and more yards, with a significantly worse QB and with zero other offensive weapons to take any attention away from him like Hunter had. If you think Hunter having 7 more TDs is more because of Hunter vs T-Mac and not because Hunter's QB had literally DOUBLE the number of TD's this year than T-Mac's QB, then I have some Arizona oceanfront property to sell you. -
What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
tukafan21 replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yes, that's actually part of the argument against Hunter's prospects, particularly because he's still insisting on being a 2 way player. He's still putting personal glory over his own personal ceiling as a prospect, because yea, if he focused on either side of the ball, he'd be a better player because of it, while also extending his career (as playing 2 way is a sure fire way to shorten it). Too many people here think the "hating" on Hunter is just hating him, no, we recognize that he is a true generational college player, but we have concerns about how his game translates to the NFL as well as serious concerns about the beating his body has taken from playing 2 ways for the last 3 years. -
What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
BullCityP replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Ok let's say Tets supporting cast and Hunter playing both ways cancel each other out....Hunter STILL had the better season!! And I doubt playing one more game Tet was gonna make up those receptions and get 7 more TDs lol -
Nolan had 6.5 sacks this season compare that to some other guys Mason Graham- 3.5 James Pearce Jr- 7.5 Jalon Walker- 6.5 Mykel Williams- 5 So it’s safe to say Nolan gets after the QB. And interior pressure is the worse kind of pressure for QBs
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What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
tukafan21 replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
He spent the entire season complaining on podcasts that he wasn't the Heisman favorite. He then flew entirely across the country on his bye week to show up to College Gameday in person to again, campaign for himself for Heisman. His coach posted a video of him "stealing" shoes from Deion's personal locker room because he thought it was funny. But do you really think that would fly with any other player or coach in the nation? If you don't think these things are red flags of a potential diva when his NFL HC isn't a surrogate father to him, then again, you're sticking your head in the sand. -
What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
BullCityP replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Nah I wanna see these NFL evaluators talking about his prospects at WR aren't good because I would LOVE to see thier explanations -
What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
tukafan21 replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
You do realize that raw stats don't make someone a better or worse player, right? To begin with, the last time I checked, 1,319 is more yards than 1,258, so T-Mac had more yards (but I'll forgive you as a typo there and say you meant catches lol), but that's before even factoring in that Hunter did his in 13 games vs 12 for T-Mac because Arizona didn't make a bowl game. It's also completely ignoring the team around each player. If you think Hunter having the 8th place finisher in the Heisman voting at QB isn't going to result in helping his top WRs stats, then you're sticking your head in the sand to purposefully not see it. Hunter's QB had 353 completions for 4,134 yards and 37 TDs vs T-Mac's QB who had 260 completions for 2,958 yards and 18 TDs. But sure, let's rank NFL prospects by their stats and say the guy with more catches and TDs is the better prospect. So on that note, I now change my mind, T-Mac is no longer the best WR in the draft, it's Nick Nash who had 104 rec, 1,382 yards, and 16 TDs, all numbers better than Hunter's... because that's how this is done, right? As I've said before, if someone wants to like a player better than someone else that's totally fair, but come with real reasons, talk about their play, but to talk about things like stats as your reasoning, when you ignore the obvious and massive flaws in using those stats in that way, just makes you look dumb. -
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BullCityP replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Nah you don't go out and put up the numbers he did without being able to run routes dude is a football junky so he works on his craft he isn’t THAT much more athletic than other players to just be able to go out and do whatever and succeed at that level -
What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
BullCityP replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Because he's affiliated with Prime and Shedeur. I seen one poster say he's gonna be a diva when he's show ZERO signs of being that kind of player as a matter of fact he's shown the complete opposite lol -
Local media has always sucked. I could tell my tom Sorenson story again but yall have heard it enough
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What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
Aussie Tank replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don't get the Hunter hate. Just imagine his ceiling if he stopped trying to be this 2way freak and focused on one side of the ball -
I'd say its definitely going to be addressed this off-season. We went into the last draft with a roster of RBs including: Chubba, Blackshear, and Miles Sanders. We picked Jonathan Brooks in the second and still signed Rashaad Penny afterwards. Fast forward....One turned into a top 10 back, 1 is injured/out for most if not all the '25 season, 1 retired, 1 will either take a huge paycut or be cut, and the last is a restricted free agent. We brought in Mike Boone as well. Add him to the free agent list also. We need a physical option. Which qualifies: Ashton Jeanty(Boise St): Overall ranked Top 10. Almost 2k yards after contact, 28 tds. Would take our first rounder. My money would be on an NFC East team selecting him. (97.2 PFF run grade) - 121 forced missed tackles. Omarion Hampton(UNC): Ranked everywhere from 20 - 59 overall. Consensus #2 back after Jeanty. He'll be a second rounder. 1,222 Yards after contact w/ 15 tds. (90.5 PFF run grade) - 72 forced missed Tackles Kaleb Johnson(Iowa): Ranked from 38 - 69 depending on which media outlet you prefer but generally #3. 2nd/3rd possibly. 1,060 Yards after contact w/ 21 tds.(86.7 PFF run grade)- 66 forced missed tackles Cam Skattebo: Ranked from the 50's - 104. Every mock I do he ends up BPA at some point. 969 Yards after contact w/ 17 tds(92 PFF Run Grade). Probably the best receiving back of the group. 81 forced missed tackles. If the '24 and '25 draft classes were combined, IMO the rankings would be, in order: Jeanty, Hampton, Brooks, Johnson, Skattebo. I wouldn't take one high but I'd take one for Chubba and Brooks insurance.
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I don’t disagree with you. My pick was Ladd and I hated DM for passing on him but giving XL a fair chance. I used to get in arguments in the game threads because people would say I’m dumb for pointing out XL doesn’t even extend his arms on balls he can’t catch at least trying to draw PI or potentially break up an INT. There’s some basic basic stuff he does not do, and at his age it’s concerning. Let’s hope he gets it figured out
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Yeah, there's really no quality media coverage of this team but I mean, I guess it's understandable. Bad, small market team and virtually all legacy media is dying out already? I mean, not exactly a recipe for getting quality coverage. But yeah, you'd think somebody would try to follow up with the team on this issue. You have your most recent top draft pick who struggled with catching the ball as a rookie who openly talked about likely needing off-season surgery on his wrist to fix a lingering injury issue and evidently no one covering the team has thought it worth their time to try to get some clarification on the issue.
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Is running back on the table for the panthers this draft?
Tr3ach replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
It seems to be a strategy we use when drafting. Instead of taking a later guy when a position is deep, we prefer to take an early guy when the position isn't good in the draft. -
Is running back on the table for the panthers this draft?
kungfoodude replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
He seems to be a 3rd/4th rounder right now -
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What top 10 prospect do you absolutely NOT want?
LinvilleGorge replied to CanadianCat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah he's an elite NFL athlete. His route running is raw as hell because he's a CB playing WR. He's a plug and play CB. He's an elite project as a WR. He's going to be a a CB with a package of plays as a WR. -
Is running back on the table for the panthers this draft?
bythenbrs replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
If he’s available late day 2 (probably not), I’d do it… -
The issue I think most have(myself included) is why are you having to train a 5 year college player and 1st round WR how to catch the ball?
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