mbarbour21

We will have to beat the Cardinals to get any love, and then I wouldn't be surprised if they made excuses. If we beat the Cowboys they will chalk it up to injuries and blah blah blah. We beat the mess out of a Saints team that just destroyed the Packers and it was because of position coaches. Very few actual analysts will give us the respect we deserve. Yesterday I went to watch a video about us. The analyst said, "We got to talk about that Panther's defense. That Jameis Winston...." And then proceeded to talk about Winston the entire segment. If you want accurate content then watch the 4 Man Rush or PNP or some other YouTubers. These mainstream guys don't know our team, I'm surprised they know our mascot.

That I agree with fully. We had opportunities and came up short. That's where I had the biggest issue with Bridgewater.

I don't know man, I'm not straight disagreeing with you. But this defense is not the same as last year. I fully agree the defense last year kept us in games. They performed at a much higher level than I expected. But our defense got A LOT better at 3rd down stops, QB pressure, and rush defense. It is on another level this year. We would have absolutely won more games last year with this defense, regardless of offensive change. If we are talking one position, I would totally agree QB was the biggest upgrade. Just based on the importance of the position alone the upgrade was huge. But that D as a whole is phenomenal. Like 30 yards for Kamara. Bro, we could have won with 3 field goals. lol!

Very deep analysis.....

I think we would have won half of the games we lost, if not more, if we would have had this defense last year. I honestly think they over-performed last year, at least from what I was expecting. If they keep this up, this is a Super Bowl defense. There is no question in that. Can the rest of the team fall in line? I don't know. But this defense is special. The offense has some issues, but not ones that I would deem unfixable. Questions still out on the o-line though. If they hold up, it's playoffs for sure. NFC West is loaded though, so it's not gonna be a 9 wins gets us a Wild Card. I'm thinking 11 wins are going to be necessary to beat the NFC West teams to a Wild Card.

Improvement might be a slight understatement at this point. lol! They have basically reversed from the worst to best. But I agree, they have to keep that up. It is just week two and we have a long way until seasons end. Just refreshing to see that our staff seen the issues last year and made them a priority. Most of the major problems we had last year, they made a valiant effort to fix. O-line moves were a head scratcher, but all in all their decisions seem to have paid off. Even the TE Dan Arnold decision looks to be a good one after this week. Red zone issues will probably clear up the more they all start to gel (including coaches). Just have to keep getting comfortable in their roles.

I think it will come down to how much time Mills has back there. He seemed to play okay when Taylor came out. If you give almost any QB enough time, they can burn you. I see the game plan looking eerily similar to the Saints game. If we can blanket Kamara, we can do it to pretty much any back in the league. If our pass coverage plays like they did against the Saints, this is an absolute W. No wins are absolute before the game, but this should not be close. We should win by 20 in my opinion. If we protect the ball on offense, it's a win.

But they have all their assistant coaches......so.....

I don’t care how easily fixable it is. It’s still gotta be fixed. Like I said, it is Monday. Really the first day I have discussed it. We are discussing issues with the game. The title of this thread is Fame and Shame. Lol! I honestly don’t know how to explain that anymore. I’m not saying it is the end of the world, but needs to be addressed.

100% agree. But it is an issue that should and will be addressed. No. That is an issue. Because better teams can win with 7 minutes left and down 10. And it's like Monday dude. LOL! You act like it's week 10 already. This literally happened yesterday, and the week before.

That play was pretty bad though. I'm not looking for perfection. But I do expect the turnovers that happen to be more reasonable. He basically tossed it to a D-lineman. Great job otherwise, but the "What the heck" turnover is what I am focused on. Not too mention we were up 17 on our side of the field. Got to know the situation. Those 7 points for the Saints never happen without this mistake. As dominate as we were, they were within 10 points in the 4th. That's upsetting.

For Tyrod's sake, they may want to hold him out Thursday so he can recover. I'm not even joking. This defense has been a nightmare for Wilson and Winston. You are looking at an average of 5 sacks and 10 QB hits. Short sample size, but all signs point to much of the same.

Add in the fact that we will probably have very good field position if the defense plays like they did against the Saints. Texans with a rookie QB in his first start. I honestly would be very upset if we didn't score at least 30 on Thursday night.

@AsylumGuido

Bro, this was my exact thought. I was thinking that I couldn't really argue too much until this comment. LOL! I'm sure the same exec would have thought the same thing if Winston would have lead the Saints to a W against us right? Haha! I mean, Coach Payton knows Carolina so....Winston is still a maybe. Yeh....okay.

Bro, I understand that completely. They exceeded my expectations last year by losing 8 or 9 games by one score or less. I didn't think we would do that well. This year they have already exceeded my expectations by shutting both teams out in the first half of both games. I predicted a 24-20 win over the Saints even with their issues. But those issues have to be cleaned up to make it to the playoffs. Which I thought was a possibility at the beginning of the season....but still very unlikely. But now, with that defense, I believe it is entirely possible. Allowing teams to stick around has always been an annoying trait of ours. Even our 2015 Panthers allowed the Seahawks to come back after leading by like 30 points in the playoffs. lol! So, I'm satisfied with the win, but my expectations have gone up now. Haha! We were too dominate that game to be that close in the 4th, imo.

I agree with this as well. Which is why I wished the scoreboard reflected that. They had no business being within 10 points yesterday in the 4th. NONE!

Well, looks like Robby nicknamed the defense before we could.

Yeah, but it's not a, "We just held them to 128 yards." kinda score. Bills won like 35-0. That's the score that says, "We held Kamara to .6 yards per rush." Lol!