BuffaloBills62

Ok, question. I'm trying to maintain my current weight but I don't think I'm eating enough calories. I'm afraid that if I do, I'm gonna ruin what I've done. I eat a lot of lean protein, veggies etc. I can't bring myself to eat many carbs. What can I eat??

fruit.  My metabolism is high, I eat quite a bit, and I still lose weight despite taking in 130ish grams of protein a day and less then 2,400 calories.

 

I eat a lot of fruit.  I have a set timing plan, too.  My body is like a machine.  If I have not had an orange before 1pm I will really start to crash.  Before workouts I would usually down about half a table spoon of honey, a grapefruit or two oranges, and if in a pinch a water with a lot of sugar.

Soooo...I was effectively kicked out of the gym today.  I was told more or less that I am no longer welcome there.  For reasons I will not get in to, it is amazingly pathetic that some people are just such a-holes and go out of their way to get in other peoples business.

 

This tiny ass hick town doesn't have many options at all and I am not going to figure out if the YMCA has a gym...if we even have a YMCA here.  Argh, looks like I'll be skipping leg days.

 

Hopefully, well, I am not insulting ya'll but there are some really ignorant people in this state, its like no other state I have lived in.  While, that's not fair.  This area of this state is like no other area I have ever lived in.  Everyone is up in everyones business, the good ol' boy network is alive and well and outsiders are ostrisized.

I'm working on a long cut. I want to hit 8% body fat and run a 10k in under 40 minutes. I might switch regimens, but I have to find one I like first.

 

Maybe I missed it - but are you a competitive runner?

 

I am going to begin for running a marathon shortly.  I just want to run one, then I'll look to the 10k's and 5k's, etc.  I need to find a Marathon date for 2015 or late this year and train to that.  Richmond and Charleston would be cool places to run.

Am I the only one who ever looks at their workouts and tries to stack them against the combine numbers for NFL draft prospects?  haha

 

Like the other day doing bench I did 3 sets of 215# @ 15 reps and the last was able to get to 17... So I figured I'd be 3rd round something or other.

 

Back at it after a week off. I do physically feel better, but after that workout, mentally I feel better. I missed the gym

 

Any plans on what you're going to do this time?  Same routines?  Same motive?  Anything to change it up?  Add to your goals?

People who are so concerned about what others do, how they act, and how they look are just covering up their own insecurities. 

 

Eh, I am not concerned with it, I am not wrapped up in it.  At the time I was overwhelmed by it because I was told 3 times in the course of two days I need to shave down and I would look much better, and told this by men.  It was unsettling because I don't care what they think.

 

Thru the next few days I kept noticing how vain people are at the gym.  I have got told to shave down a few times since, also got told to keep my manscaping...  it's just the way it is.  One guy, though, did make a point.  It cuts down on body odor, which is why he does it in landscaping.  His clients don't want to smell his work, just see it.  Me being outside and on the go a lot it makes sense.

Chest hair hides definition. If you have no definition, it hides flab.

I have definition, though.  I am very lean for my size.  I am not tremendously hairy, though.  Maybe more then average.

 

Yeah I'm not sure where Buffalo man is getting at but what's wrong with shaving? And how is that "gay"?  How does it make you look bigger?

 

There's some dudes in mine and Joscott's gym are huge and shaved, I'd like him to tell them they're gay... lol 

I have a big mouth, I probably would tell them if I got bored.  I stopped some big ass caveman the other day and asked him if he wouldn't mind helping me rerack his weights.  He left 14 plates on a leg press and was about to leave.  When I asked him he had a look of confusion, but I did not stop for a response and just started taking them off.  He just came over and helped - claimed he worked out so hard he just forgot to do it and thanked me for reminding him.

 

What is wrong with shaving is that it is so damn silly.  I can put up as much weight if not more then most anyone at the gym yet they insist on looking so big and wearing the most ridiculous costumes to work out.  Shaving is just part of that costume.

Besides being all the way out in left field, who cares what other do? They want to look bigger? Let them. Their woman doesn't like hair, let her not like hair. Says more about the person judging than the guy for shaving/waxing etc. I'm an equal opportunity observer, though. So, my thinking is different. Are you doing something that makes you feel good, confident, and healthy while also affording those around you their own proclivities? If so, you're good in my book.

 

I got schooled. 

 

I shave my husbands front.....and back. hawt

 

Seriously though, i want to see his muscles. 

That is.  That is... something right there.  the thing with doing that and shaving - you have to have a darker skin tone/tan/whatever.  I am a pastey ass white dude so I'd just look silly.

 

lol 

 

Yes and not really.

 

I'm mixed on him shaving his chest hair, his chest hair is pretty damn sexy but he's got all these wonderful muscles that it's all hiding. 

 

I think if it were up to him, he'd just dip him body in a nair if he could. 

I'd just hook some hot wires to you and plug you in to 220 for some redneck electrolysis.

 

People from Buffalo are pretty miserable. Is it because of the hot wing shits and the constant red ass or is it because of the crappy weather and beast-women up there?

miserable?  I think I have charm!

 

Western NY is no different then the Carolina's.  The women are no different, either.  Instead of the typical dark hair, strong cheek bone little face girls that are here; up there you have blond taller girls with button noses and lighter skin.  People never believe me but most of North Carolina could easily be mistaken for WNY.

shaving your chest body is fuging gay.

 

IF you have to do that to look bigger, or you want to do that to show off, you're a little bitch.

Crap.  So, I am now becoming the dude that all the dude ask for tips and exercises at the gym.  That's fine with me but they gotta learn when I am working out to let me work out.

 

Also, wtf... so I have a few gym buddies there that are girls and they totally ruined me on talking to this gorgeous chick tonight who I had brief conversations with in the past.  This time she stops and talks to me for 10-15 minutes.  They come right up and interrupt me getting revenge on me for ruining their dance video (because I went in behind them and started dancing like an idiot).  Killed me.  I went full retarded babbled and stumbled and lost any such chance I had I imagine.

 

Oh, and I also worked out a little.

He got jewed

 

 

I did Max Plyo and ate candy and drank some wine before heading to the in laws : (

 

pff.  You did not binge like I did this weekend.  7 loaded potato grillers, 1 mexican pizza, and 2 cheesy crunch gordita's, 1 box of cinnamon toast crunch, 2 beers, and a chocolate bunny.

 

My bunghole is going to be punished tomorrow

 

I feel like poo, too.  I eat only fruit, vegetables and protein (either beef or powder) for almost all of my meals.

I'm testing my arm out tomorrow after a week off. It has been feeling better but I don't know how it will react during back day.

 

I thought I'd add that I recently was reading a paper on sports therapy and recovery.  I wish I would have saved it.

 

The article spoke about how ice baths and icing muscles post work out, during recovery or injury.  The results were pretty stunning.  I remember back in my day (I am 32) in high school and college a cold bath tub with jets was the norm.  The temps were supposed to be under 40 degrees and no lower then 34.  You'd sit in there 15-20 minutes and feel great afterward.  However, new research is showing that the same benefit will be found by using 60 degree water for the same duration.  The physical effects will feel different, obviously, but the effectiveness to recovery and tissue regeneration was no less then the 34-40F bath.

 

Further it spoke about recovering injuries and how new methods are showing that for most common injuries ice alone is not as effective as a full recovery program.  Sports therapists are now promoting deep muscle stimulation thru vibratory and deep muscle stimulation.  What was once best thought to help align and retain muscles to traditional placement is now being studied to show the benefit of the vital skeletal muscles deeper beneath the tissue where bloodflow can be reduced.

 

Joints were brought up slightly in this study and it was mentioned that the issue is and always has been tissue regrowth and stimulation of the area thru therapy that generally includes heat treatments and proper posture of the joint to allow for maximum blood flow since the actual joint receives very little bloodflow to help heal.

 

Yeah, it was basically about influencing bloodflow to the body can improve performance.  I had been researching iron supplementation for joint recovery and stumbled on it.

Day one of not going to the gym sucks.

 

Mine is closed today because that chump Jesus doing his Zombie thing.

I hate it, but I think I need a recovery week. A few muscles are sore and not like DOMS or anything.

 

What is the indication?  Muscles?  Fatigue?  Joints sore?

 

How long has it been since your last rest?

 

 

 

I probably need one, too.  I will likely just do a 15 minute cardio machine warm up and stretch with light plyometric work to keep things working and then some sauna-ing.   I just hate taking it because I need to be able to move it.  But, I went hard last week and if I am going to take one I need to do it this week.

Sorry you lousy Panthers kids I've been busy.  I don't want to reveal much about myself - just not my thing, but I am a farmer with a full time job, as well.  I stay pretty busy when I do my 110 minute 6 day a week workout plan.  (30 cardio, 60 lift, 8 min core, 2 min calves, 10 min stretching/plyo ).

 

Form issues?

I would not say form.  I worked out with some 19 yr olds Thursday on the shoulders and really noticed it.  It being what I had noticed the week before when I went back to the basics.  I am 32 and I put them to shame - a couple of former high school wrestlers, felt good.  Anyway, I think it was a rhythm issue if that makes sense.  Instead of just the drop it down and throw it up movement that is so easy to fall back in to I worked on slower movement and firing of each muscle as I rose and fell.

 

I have a killer shoulder workout program - I killed those boys.

 

Oh if you follow P90X like you should, it is no joke for sure.  People on here have had great success with it.

 

Crossfit same way, but it's like a damned cult.

 

 

Cat and I have discussed this before... I've had people make fun of me bc I go to the gym everyday or give you a "back handed" compliment about working out so much, fug them.  

I mentioned Crossfit here a while back.  Charlotte has one of the best Crossfits in the state.  Coach A is fantastic - he actually played for the Fins at Safety (iirc) for a while.  An NCSU graduate in Livestock Sciences and played football there, too.

 

They are not like a lot of the wannabe Xfits that don't pay attention to form or the workout.  They preach the form and they know their stuff.

 

At yoga last night my instructor had us focus on legs and hips. She kept coming around and adjusting my hips into some incredible awkward position.  

I haven't been this sore in ages, I just finished Insanity and never was close to be as sore as I am today.  

I really, really want to get in to Yoga.  I live in no-where NC with maybe 2 yoga studios here.  My gym used to offer it but no longer does.  In Davidson County NC there really isn't much of an option and I'd feel like a big creep ogre goon dragging my knuckles in to a yoga studio.

 

Plus, I fart a lot.

 

Now that the app is up and running I can share without tech issues. To the left is this time last year. The work was put in last September until now.
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And the one on the far right is taken at a really good camera angle. (I did not pose for either of these. I hate taking pictures)

Hit those incline benches, bro.  It'll fill in that pec head.  Also get some oblique workout in - it'll chisel those abs out.

 

Looks great, though.  Keep up the good work.

 

anyone have experience with taking arginine and ornithine together along with leucine?  reviews seem to be really positive.  

What experience would you like to know about?  I know a lot about the subject.

Arginine can be very scary for people with high sensitivities to it.  Even those without can experience bad things with it.  For example, with me, if I work out too hard I will blow up blood vessels.  When I do dragon flags in my workout and have taken arginine based pre workouts (like C4) I will get blotches across my face, shoulders and upper back where I am straining to get my 3sets of 20 in.  When I work arms my arms will some times look bruised the next morning.  It really gets that blood going.

 

Ornithine is beneficial, but like Argenine is not one that is going to develop the skeletal muscles as much as it will improve performance.  I hope that makes sense but if not what I am trying to say is; Ornithine and arginine are used to induce the muscles ability to absorb the oxygen basically (arginine) and induce the muscle to recover by forcing out nitrogen (ornithine). 

 

I will have to check with some people to see what the best options are but I do know from experience and knowledge that buying premixed BCAA's is better then mixing them on your own.  Pre workouts aside, which usually are more placebo then bonafide actual improving agents often do have BCAA's, thoguh.  C4 has the arginine in it and Alanine. Both thin the blood out and combined with the niacin can make you look orange and blotchy.

 

A few products I can recommend for good BCAA's in good supplementation:

GNC Pro Performance Amplified Ripped - a good combination of BCAA's, CLA, that is stimulant free with some water displacement agents

Inner Armour Casein - amino acid enhanced casein protein great to take before bed as keep metabolism up

twin labs amino fuel - a simple mans premixed amino acid pill that has worthwhile ingredients that helps you avoid having to buy it all separately.  it is reasonably priced, as well.

 

I want you to look in to Threonine

 

The best preworkout combo I can tell you from experience with is nearly a fatal one.  Craze (now illegal, though), mixed with Endothil, mixed with C4.  You will get 5 to 10% more weight (based on your max) on your sets with endothil alone.  But, take some milk thistle and glutathiamine to protect your liver and not fug yourself up.

no, just working out and eating right up until now..  although UPS just came to do the door with my weight gainer and I'll get those in the mail next week.

 

pretty solid deal I couldn't pass up..  $70 including shipping for all 3..  leucine (400grams), arginine/ornithine (250 tabs), and 1000g of creatine..

The creatine is something you need to be careful with taking as it can hold you back over time if you do not the proper things while taking it.

 

I can write more about this if you'd like but am feeling lazy after going thru all that above.  Let me know if you care enough to have me give you more info, of if any of you silly Panthers fans care tto know, that is.

did shoulders again today, different routine then normal.  did a few sets on each machine with barely any weight and really focused on the form.  i added some weight, didn't go as heavy as normal**.

 

two things that are huge and something i need to think about

1) I did not feel as sore doing it

2) I actually feel like I worked my shoulders out.

 

Maybe my form was that far off that I was hurting myself.  Maybe the TriFlex and Jell-o are doing what I need - though my knee still hurts.

 

 

Getting old is a bitch.

 

 

***edit:  normally I military press about 150-160.  I went down to 135 for my sets.  On dumbell I normally go with 70# bd's, I went to 55#.  And the flies I normally do about 40# for all of my sets.  I did 1 set at 50# and the rest at 30#.  Huge difference.

I have added Tri-Flex Sport ( I get GNC stuff very cheap! ) and Jell-O to my post workout and morning proteins.  The Jell-o contains 10x's the amount of whatever it is I cant remember because I am tired stuff that helps with forming cartilage and ligaments.   I have done this in the past, it makes for a great way to flavor your stuff.

 

How is the goat?



Shoulder wise I never do behind the neck presses and I never take my upper arms below parallel with the floor. Both of those things cause impingement. The shoulder joint is very delicate.

 

That to most people is usually about the nose or ears.   When looking at your video it is confusing to me because the forearms should be 90degrees from the bar and maintain that angle to keep it off of the triceps.  Still he has good form, the same I use.  I watched that right before I got started - since I usually do cardio to warm up.  I think the only difference may be my elbows turning out a little too wide.

 

When behind the head I only go to the crown of my head and usually do this while standing.

 

I worry about much of my body because I abused it horribly for many years in school and a short athletic career in college.

 

If your form is good and it hurts to do it, you may want to seek out a doctor. I would recommend a sports medicine doctor as they tend to get you back in the gym faster.

I am too much of a hypochondriac to go to a Dr.  I know that sounds funny but I'd end up thinking I have lupus, a damaged growth plate and a stubbed toe because my shoulder hurts.

 

Plus, I think it is more mental then physical right now.  With the emphasis of me realizing my limits and to slow down because even just now sitting here on the couch with the laptop and arm on the rest it is a nice dull ache.

 

I hate to be cliche gym knuckle dragger but I want to give it a few weeks before I move to the next level. (I got laid off from my job and lost benes but got ObamaCare because it's cheap as hell when you have no real income!)

There must be some bodybuilding thing going on in Orlando this week. There was a bodybuilding chick in the hotel gym working with her trainer. She was straight up beast mode

 

this time of year you will find a ton of those in Florida and California.  No joke, there are at least 4 or 5 during the work week every week and 25-30 every weekend in Florida from mid Feb to late April.

 

I guess it makes sense, a lot of people would rather go there to do that type of thing.

 

 

 

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question for ya'll.  With your shoulders how far down do you go on your shoulder press?  Bar behind the head or in front of it.?

 

the reason I ask is that my right shoulder joint gets a heck of a lot of discomfort doing it in front of my back but not behind.  I am not sure if it is because I actually go too low or not because I only ever see people lowering it to their forehead at the lowest.  It never does anything for me to do that and while I have weak shoulders in comparison to my overall strength I don't get anything from shoulders, ever, in 20 something years.

 

crap, now I feel like I am venting.

After watching some videos, I think I've been going too deep on my bench presses.

 

to deep as in too far down vertically up and down?  or too deep as holding the bar too low when you press?

 

I'd be curious to see the videos.  it is chest day after all

I do chest day two ways...   bench press and non bench press.

 

Bench press day, I usually start on the bench and do five sets up...  135, 185, 225, 245, 275 then at least two back down, 225 and 185 as many as I can.  Then I'll go on to some sort of incline, either dumbbells or machine, incline barbell kills my shoulders. Then I'll do pec-deck, dumbbell flies, cable flies, decline barbell or some combination of those and I usually end with supersets of crunches and push-ups.

 

Non bench day I just start with usually incline dumbbell presses which I also pyramid up and then down, flat dumbbell presses or maybe smith machine declines, then on to flies or the pec-deck.

 

Essentially I try and switch up the order every other time and I don't always do flat bench barbell presses.

 

Other chest stuff... close grip bench, plate presses... take a plate, lay down and it's like a close grip press essentially...

 

When I run out of ideas, I check here...

 

http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/finder/lookup/filter/muscle/id/1/muscle/chest

 

add the clock push ups with a plate on your back and you will really help get everything working unilaterally and improve overall function.

Talking about not feeling it in the shoulders after working them out or the next day - it's a pain in the ass.  Most men who do any type of physical work in their lives on a routine basis have dense and strong muscle in their shoulders that recovers quickly and becomes very hard to improve size/mass vs. the rest of the body.  They become like the calves and forearms - which is why I do a routine every so often which puts me doing them 3 times a week, very heavy and very few reps at only 2 - maybe 3 - sets.

 

It does a lot.  I can post the workout if you'd like but am feeling lazy and got stuff to do.  Plus, you're Panthers fans so you're probably not worthy

Hiked 8+ miles at Grandfather Mountain yesterday. If you guys and gals haven't had a chance to do it, it's awesome! Some trails are rated "advanced," but if you're adventurous, you can do it no problem without any special knowledge needed. Had a blast with the 9 people in my group (organized by the Maxx Fit instructor at my gym). Popped a muscle relaxer after that long day before bed. Man, didn't think I would like that kind of thing.

Went to the gym today after all that. Chest day. Definitely needed that extra shot of pre I took. Had to close my eyes and take deep breaths and listen to some music before each set because I was mentally and physical exhausted. I got through it, though, and actually got some good pump but just had to take my time.

Did I mention I'm in the middle of a move to Uptown and hauled a library of books and an entire kitchen to my new place? Well, I did that, too.

Nothing worth achieving comes easy.

 

Mountain hiking is no joke.  I am talking real hiking, spending more then 2 hours of hiking, preferably over 4 hours.  There is a longer trail from the base of the mountain all the way up, it almost figure 8's around it but due to evalation changes it doesn't cross.  It is over 14 miles iirc.

 

Also a good one just for fun is up near Danville.  Mt. Airy's Pilot Mtn is pretty nice for hiking, too.

 

 

Ok, what is a pistol squat? Is this something I can do?

Are you a chick?  If so, it's probably more up your alley then a big dude and because you're a chick.  Guys COG is the shoulder.  Women, the hips.  Easier to balance and usually they're not as top heavy.

 

Another video - this time a woman

 

 

Edit:  I go to a very large gym, at least for where I live.  There are 3 men there who can do it.  Of the maybe 100 that I know that workout I have asked at least half to try it and the other half I have not even bothered because I know they couldn't.  It's a lot harder then it looks.

 

I hope to have the planche pushup by the end of year, too.

i agree.  but i haven't done a whole lot of full body workouts, so once a week, or so often just to make everything function as one large muscle

 

mine is radial too, i think that adds a lot of extra weight.  i dunno if i could flip a 6' tire or not.   might actually make it easier, depending on what it weighs

 

if i can push out 20 reps on anything, i'm bored with it

 

You know what a trainer at the gym told me... many here might get a kick out of it.  They said I was doing great at my workouts, doing the right things but I should add the donkey kick glute thing that a lot of chicks do so I can watch their ass.  Which, honestly, I know that is the only reason they do it, just for me.  To look at their ass.

 

Anyway.  I was like, hmm...  Explain?  The trainer, who is actually one of the better I've ever met, was rather logical saying that since I do not work out the individual glute at any point in my workout it could be lacking in strength overall and reduce my functionality since I train for usage and athleticism which helps in my field.

 

I took him up on it.  I ended up starting with half a stack and didn't really have a problem. 3/4, no problem.  I went up to the whole stack, something like 210 lbs.  No problem.  I then went and found every one of those add on plates you can get, each one like 10 lbs.  I found 9.

 

I have no idea if it is actually 300 lbs. or not, I have no idea how those machines work but it was still boring as hell.  I did 20 each leg on 3 sets before I got bored.  I didn't see going beyond 20 or doing another set because it didn't do much.

 

Sure, though, the next day I could tell I worked out my glutes more but I don't know if it is worth it.  The trainer didn't believe me, either.