SmokinwithWilly

I can't think of another QB that's had to add 20 lbs to try and disguise their playing weight just for the combine. However the original point was that Bryce had nothing to do with where he was drafted. As you yourself pointed out, players do things like this all the time to affect where they are drafted. I was really just pointing out that it's not like he had zero input in the process.

He didnt fool me. I never bought into any of it. The fact that he put on 20 lbs to try and intentionally deceive something so trivial would have immediately removed him from my draft board. I always thought Bryce was a late day 2or day 3 pick at best.

Bryce measured in at 5'10.25" and 204 lbs at the combine. So the answer is yes. He fooled people.

Then if they aren't fooled, why do it? Because some of them undoubtedly could be. And ultimately, the person(s) making the decision was. He fooled Dave Tepper.

Actually, I dont ever recall another QB packing on 20 lbs of water weight to try and hide their actual playing weight because they knew their real playing weight could potentially hurt their chance of being drafted 1st overall. And Stroud actually said he didnt care about test results, watch him play football. We cared about a test and Bryce had the worst rookie season in NFL history. Stroud went to the playoffs.

Anyone ever solves the tush push and the Eagles are done. Or if the refs ever call a false start.

Not completely. Bryce heavily participated in the draft process. From packing on extra weight and hiding it under baggy clothes, to repeated practicing for the S2 test that miraculously is hyped beyond all recognition then never heard about again, while Stroud was trashed as an imbecile, and when his physical limitations were being called into question, he chose not to participate in combine drills. You could say it's not his fault where he was drafted, but I would disagree. I would say he certainly participated in getting himself drafted 1st overall and a larger guaranteed payday.

Big daddy Dave is locked in his office right now with his picture of Brady, his Bryce screen saver, a box of kleenex and hand lotion.

Matt Rhule is at home watching this offense laughing.

I can't believe it took a "leadership council" to actually play Rico.

Sounds familiar. Almost like Big Daddy Dave.

Ain't that the fuging truth.

What excuses. Everyone said Dalton was ass. Even if he broke his thumb he was still ass and should have been replaced last offseason.

People are sick and tired and mass incompetence. I could deal with it if this was just bad luck with injuries or a bust draft or 2. But it's been stupid move after stupid move, things so obvious members of a message board are screaming this is stupid. At this point, we're either cursed by some voodoo woman named Phyllis, or we have won the lottery of the most boneheaded owner ever and the Panthers are his island of misfit toys.

I get it. It's just hard to wrap your mind around that it's THAT bad and Morgan/Tepper didn't see any reason to bring in any QB competition this offseason.

A RB now has to have 60 yards a game to get 1000 yards on the season. It's not as hard to get to anymore but a lot of teams are also doing RBBC so there aren't as many bell cow backs any more.

How is that even fugging possible.

When's the next leadership council? Can't do anything until the next leadership council.

Can't really trade Moton either. His 2 year extension has a 21.5m signing bonus.

Chuba is running like a RB that just got a 2nd contract. Rico is running like a RB on a contract year. Rico is going to be the more aggressive of the 2 because he's trying to get paid. Contract year performances are what they are. Just don't be the team to pay a big contract based off a contract year.

Are we sure about that

But if you look back over the years, it's been pretty much plug and play. Sanders averaged almost 5 YPC and we saw what happened when he came to Carolina.

Open to it, just how we deal with the contract is the only question. I expect they will want us to eat some of it to get to a 4th. When you spend a fortune on your oline, you don't pay RBs. Dallas and Philly have been a model for this. Dallas used to be and Philly has pretty much been plug and play at RB and <insert name here> have a career year.