SmokinwithWilly

Its bad but we're only 2 games in. Just accepting it and doing nothing sends a worse message IMO. We should make a move for a QB that we could at minimum have as legit camp competition next year so we can move on from Dalton.

There was nothing wrong with moving on with Ron and Marty. But who knew Tepper would hold a limbo contest and see just how low under that bar we could go. So he held tryouts.

I was never a WR or RB so I dont know the answer to this question, but could it be a speed on the ball thing? I remember Cam used to throw a rocket even on a short pass and guys had difficulty catching it because the pass was too hard. Bryce doesn't appear to throw as hard as most QBs to me, again, never played the position so I'm not sure. I've wondered if it doesn't feel right hitting the hands. Maybe too soft a pass and it doesn't snug up into the hands for a good grip like a harder pass would. Just a thought.

Suck at talent evaluation is an understatement. How our scouting department has a job is baffling. These guys must listen to Mel Kiper Jr. and all the other draft gurus. It's the only explanation for being wrong this often. Plus no one has a feel for the draft. We're always on the end of the run instead of the beginning, making panic picks or picks that make no sense from the beginning. We draft RAS scores instead of guys to fit a system. Then it's just throw poo at the wall.and see what sticks. Everyone jokes about being better than the Panthers' GM, but for the last 5 years, that's been a low bar to step over. I want to be wrong about the guys we draft and how we go about FA, but since Tepper got this team, it seems like all of us Huddlers are right about how wrong our FO, scouts and coaching are way to fugging much.

I have zero faith in Dan, Dave and Dave. Terrible owner and his wife who can't keep their noses out of football operations, Dan who is a leftover from one of the worst GMs in NFL history, and DC who is a rah rah football coach with a blah vanilla offense that looks like he's in completely over his head. My expectations before the season was 3-4 wins. After the 1st couple games, maybe 1-2 if we get lucky. 3 if Tampa has locked up the NFCS and isn't playing for playoff position and decides to fug us over in our draft position.

No. But his teammates at Alabama were superior to virtually every other team they faced. Alabama had 10 of the 62 SEC players drafted in 23. Alabama's talent pool was always better which means his linemen were having a much easier time opening those throwing lanes that he needs because they were playing against lesser competition. The NFL isn't that way and the competition level is much closer, so his line doesn't dominate the way they did in college. It's not 5 star vs 2 and 3 star anymore.

I am too. Frank became completely disinterested in the HC job after the draft.

But a serious question is, does he not see a guy come open because he misses seeing them on the field, which happens to every QB, or, is his vision blocked by the wide bodies in front of him instead of the helmets other QBs experience? For instance missing a wide open Chuba. Did he not see him or could he literally not see him? I tend to think the latter is a far bigger problem than we're being led to believe it is.

Young cost a 9, 1 and a proven WR1 plus the 2nds. The 9ers weren't in a position that missing on that pick was going to be devastating because they still had Jimmy G. He was a bust pick, but not as big IMO because the expectations weren't as big and immediate.

I got tree fiddy

4th quarter comeback!

Falcons aren't going to go prevent when they're up on us. They'll keep grinding until we're roadkill and embarrass us at home. Them 52 Us 3

His eye level is probably 5'5" to 5"6 being generous looking at the backs of guys whose shoulders are 5'8 to 5'10. It's a wide wall he can't see through unless there's a lane. Helmets are easier to see around than a 320 lb lineman's shoulders.

You dont even have to find a diamond in the rough. You just draft the pro bowl center over the RB with a torn ACL, and use Maye and BC as starters or, like you said, cap friendly FA guards. Probably could have gotten a couple in the draft with the 2 5ths we used to trade up for Brooks too.

I meant they should screw us, play their backups, and make us slide down out of the #1.

Looks like we're signing a center off the Ravens practice squad according to CatCrave.

Its what they should do. Screw their division rival at every opportunity.

My magic 8 ball told me he's having dinner with the Tepper's Wednesday so I expect a poorly made VHS to digital upload and a 4 year 220m contract extension.

I get that. Im just saying with the comment be careful what we wish for with moving on from Bryce, this is the position we're in. Its almost extension time so we're going to have to make a choice soon. The beginning of year 3 looks the same as years 1 and 2 and thats not good for us as a franchise. We need a better plan for QB development in place for sure. Whoever our next rookie QB is, overall 1 or round 2 or 3, they need to sit the 1st year behind a vet. No more trade ups for QBs. That 1st year on the bench seems to be far more valuable. Our FO needs to get their poo together before Bryce or any other QB really stands a chance at success.

The problem when you draft a guy like Bryce the way you draft him with the trade up and assets spent is you cant afford for him to sit 2-3 years and develop. He has to be that guy now. We gave up too much for him to be what he is right now, and while that may not be fair, it is what it is. If we had stayed at 9 and drafted him there and he is this level of QB, we're out a 1st and while it stings, it's not crippling. But that's not what we did and it was crippling, not to mention, he wasn't even the QB our HC wanted. He didn't even fit Reich's system which hurt him even further. But now its year 3 and QB contracts are obscene. We're at the point we have to decide if he's worth what he's going to be asking. Based on performance, are you paying a 5 year, 200 million contract with 140 guaranteed? I sure as hell hope not. Bryce needs to be able to elevate the guys around him and he's not doing that. His physical limitations are clear, his field vision is spotty, his decision making is questionable and his ability to hold under pressure. Well, we saw that Sunday. Maybe he's good somewhere else, but where we find ourselves right now, staring down the barrel of year 3 with a 5th year option or contract extension on the horizon, we don't have the luxury to wait another season and hope. If he doesn't get it together in a big damn hurry he needs to be out the door.

How dare fans be upset when Tepper makes us slog through this embarrassing thing he calls professional football, especially when us pathetic nobodies have been right about the draft, free agents, and front office/coaching moves in general than those being paid millions.

Little different perspective. Biggest draft bust ever has to be the Hornets trading away Kobe Bryant immediately after drafting him.

We tried to create the NFL version of new age art by eating 5 pounds of Taco Bell and washing it down with 2 gallons of that stuff they give you before a colonoscopy and this poo splattered canvas is what us fans get to look at week in and week out.

I think he did it just to see if he could try an algorithm for running football while watching his investment increase in value while having to do absolutely nothing to be successful. We just happen to be the unfortunate fugs who got stuck with Diamond Dave.