SmokinwithWilly

Im not getting worked up over anything. I was simply answering your question. I gave a very plausible reason why someone could root for us to lose on Saturday. We have a very reactionary owner who's acted on emotion several times. I don't think it's at all out of the realm of possibility that an Atlanta type game could result in a long term extension. It happens. Tepper's an owner that's gotten it wrong virtually every step of the way for 8 years. It's not a huge leap to think he wouldn't jump at the opportunity to sign Bryce long term after a "i knew it" moment.

Tepper is the wild card in all of this. He's supposedly stepped out, but if we get in and win a playoff game, I could see him getting right back into the decision making because he would feel vindicated. I have a lot of theories and conjecture, but when you lay out all the pieces, it looks like Tepper is still exerting some influence in our GM's office. I can't believe that Morgan, who went against great QBs as a MLB, looked at Dalton's game tape from last year and thought that was good enough. I just can't.

It's not illogical. Say we make the playoffs, one and done, Bryce gets his 5 year extension, yay team. We get the same Bryce, but start losing parts because of that 50m contract and all those close games we won even back out like they usually do. We're back to 5 to 7 wins for the next 4 or 5 years because one feel good game made our FO do something really stupid, AGAIN. If losing Saturday gets Bryce out of the building, some like me view that as a long term win. He is not a franchise QB. Our offense is crippled by his limitations. He's UDFA QB production that's being given more chances than he's deserved based on draft position. Getting him out of the building is a win. Unfortunately, I don't see an avenue of winning playoff games that doesn't keep Bryce in the building. I want long term success for this team. I think the biggest problem for us is Tepper chose Bryce to lead this team and as long as there is any sliver of hope he made the right choice, even with mountains of evidence to the contrary, he'll hang on because "he knew it". You asked how can anyone root for the Panthers to lose? I ask, how can you root for them to win if winning likely means 5 more years of Bryce Young as your QB? This isn't a fan problem, it's a FO problem, and we have a history of FO yes men doing very stupid things.

Ruined the perfect season for Brady. He should get an honorable mention at least just for fugging him over.

I think most of us aren't really Bryce haters as called but more so really confused and ticked off at this FO and it's behavior surrounding the QB room. The things they've done look like Bryce is being protected, shielded, whatever you want to call it, and that's coming from only one person, Tepper. He made the pick and he recognizes far too late when he's made a colossal mistake. Rhule, Hurney 2.0, Frank, Fitts. It just feel like just another log on the bonfire Dave started when he bought this team.

The question wasn't about knowing the future. It was to ascertain if you could see the logic behind the question. Short term pain of missing the playoffs for a season for the long term gain of perpetual contender. As to whether or not the FO has made their determination, I don't know. What i have seen is a QB that has been given more opportunity than deserved based on the results. If not for draft position, Bryce would have been cut a long time ago. If Bryce has an Atlanta type game in the first round of the playoffs, I could 100% see Tepper stepping in and offering him a huge extension to prove he knew it all along. I see both sides of the argument. Enjoy the playoffs while you can. Who knows when you'll be back. Or, feel the pain of missing the playoffs, but force the FO and most importantly the meddling owner to get real honest about our QB room. I haven't seen anything out of Morgan that gives me any reason to believe he doesn't think Bryce is the answer. Signing an ancient Dalton when clearly better options were available. Bringing back Plummer, who was camp bait the year before. We've purposefully ignored improvement in our QB room. My personal opinion, we shielded Bryce from feeling any pressure behind him. A humiliating defeat Saturday with Bryce putting up the biggest stinkerof his career may be what's necessary to wake this FO up. And who knows, we could lose Saturday, Falcons win, we still back into the playoffs with a losing record and the FO finally clues in the QB room has to be addressed at the 1,2 and 3 spots.

Because he likely has the same fear a few of us do which is a win and playoff appearance means the FO will subject us to years more of Bryce and the QB play that comes with him. Bryce as our franchise QB for the next 5 years is like signing up to be punched in the dick a dozen Sundays a season for half a decade. Our FO has not made one right decision with our QB room in the 8 years Tepper has been owner. Do you trust them to make the right one if we make the playoffs with a one and done? If you knew missing the playoffs this year meant we would be a perennial contender in 3 years, would you cheer for missing the playoffs this year? I want them to win. I also want no 4th year, 5th year option or extension. I've seen more than enough. Sadly, I don't think we can have both options.

I dont see how there can be 5 deep passes from goal line to goal line. 2 at most. A true deep ball is 40 plus in the air to me.

1st team in modern NFL history going to the playoffs twice with a losing record if that happens.

That's what I think of when I think of a deep throw. 20 yards ain't a deep throw no matter what they say now.

Those 5 yard check downs looking good these days

That was PI all day

Can't coach to lose. Are you listening Dave?

Falcons are determined to fug us.

That was not a hold. He just threw his ass to the ground.

Dj got a penalty for taking off his helmet. Bijan runs off the bench across the field without his... Nada

I would have traded him to the Rams, used those picks and our 9 to trade for the 1 and kept Moore, then take a real QB instead of Young or trade that 1 overall the Clausen Jr got us for a boatload of picks.

Itty bitty knives, like the cuticle cleaner in your fingernail clippers, but TSA is still gonna confiscate that deadly weapon!

At that point, throw some poo out there you've been wanting to do but never would in a real game scenario. What have you got to lose? If there were 1 or 2 seconds left and we kneeled down, fine. Not happy about, but get out of there with no injuries on a meaningless play. With just under 2 minutes left though, don't just lay down.

Even the Cardinals moved on from Rosen immediately. You aren't going to get top quality candidates if you force them to use a player just so you can try to salvage the debacle of trading away the #1 overall in the upcoming draft.

Does it though? Money wasn't enough to pull the 3 I mentioned. Dave is a problem. He's said he makes his opinion known in the FO and I'm not sure how many coaching candidates are going to want to have Monday morning QB meetings with the owner. I'll be honest too, I don't trust Dan that much either right now. He had a good draft class this year it appears, but he also whiffed just as badly in the other direction last year. Letting him pick another HC if we have to go that direction doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies. We know that. I'm not sure those in charge do. We've seen some pretty stupid things regarding our QB room, especially not even pursuing a capable backup QB. I think they see that Atlanta game and the passes he's dropped for TDs as signs he's capable he just needs more help, time, etc and do something very stupid.

Right now there's no guarantee they still won't be. I still think that's what happened with Frank. He was told he'd get to choose his QB only to get stuck with Bryce. I wouldn't put it past Tepper to exaggerate the truth if it came down to it.

Only problem is hot HC candidates don't want to come here. Remember Steichen, Johnson and Ryans all turned down Tepper for interviews. We got DC because we were his only interview.

Feels like a Matt Flynn type trap all over again.

He also had no feel for the draft at all and you could watch him start to panic a few picks before our selection. It was downright bizarre.