SmokinwithWilly

Im not absolving him of anything. He's a willing participant because he took the job. Im just saying Tepper is making the decisions surrounding Bryce and has been for 3 years. I also believe it's why he's GM. Any other legitimate candidate told him to F off.

He's made it clear he walks through the building making his opinion well known, which is to say, do what I say or your job may very well be on the line. I think he exerts his influence where and when he wants. Bryce was his draft choice and he is not going to admit he's wrong until there is no other option. Basically, when the entire town is in ashes he will start screaming fire.

Because it's the only thing that makes any sense at all. Any GM, even a terrible one could see Dalton was washed last year, so he's signed to a 2 year deal this offseason. Plummer wasn't practice squad worthy week 1 last year, then we bring him back this year. No trade action at all near the deadline. For some reason Bryce is being protected beyond all logic. The only thing that makes any sense at all is there is a directive coming from the top and the very top is David Tepper.

Canales getting out coached by the Huddle.

Bryce plays very different when all is already lost. Arizona game, down by 3 scores, it doesnt matter whay he does. When it did matter on that last drive. We saw what happened. He poo the bed. Last season, we're already out of the playoffs, it doesn't matter what he does because the overall result is already decided. It's easy to play backyard ball like the game doesnt matter when the game really doesnt matter.

I think Bryce is here because of Morgan and Tepper. Morgan took the job under the condition that Bryce was the guy. If than was the genius that he's been made out to be after this offseason, then nothing with Bryce, Dalton and Plummer makes any sense unless it was being directed from elsewhere. Tepper has also made it known publicly that he was throught the building giving his opinion vocally even though he's backed out of day to day operations, which is another way of saying, listen to what I'm saying or else. Dalton was washed after last year. In no world did it make any sense to give him a 1 year contract, much less a 2 year. And Plummer, he was so bad last year he didn't belong anywhere near a football field again but we brought him back one more time. Then we bring in Hooker and White and let the trade deadline go by with QB play that is not only abysmal, but that actually below backup level in many statistical categories. The only logical conclusion I can draw is Bryce was protected this season from any competition at all and Dalton was kept to be backup because he could never be a threat based on last year's play, which was confirmed by this year's play. Everything that has been done from the trade, drafting Bryce, Mingo, Brooks, Sanders, Lewis, Corbitt, Hunt, Moton extension, Mitchell, Etienne, XL, TMac, all of it, has been to reinforce, double, triple, quadruple down on a guy who's first year performance, if judged in a vacuum, would have gotten him cut from most NFL squads based on mechanics alone. Frank saw it and it's why he was fired. He didn't want him and didn't even try to build a game plan around him. Canales can't build a game plan around him. Defenses stack 8 or 9 in the box and dare him to throw and Sunday is what we got. This is Tepper's ego in full force. It's the only true explanation for what we've seen the past 3 years. This is a man who refuses to admit he was wrong.

He hasn't looked good thats for damn sure, then he does things that make you wonder if he could be. He strikes me as the kind of guy that needs to enjoy the game to even have potential and I dont see how you can do that with Bryce as your quarterback.

True. But ive also worked with people that ruin every bit of enjoyment at a job because they suck so bad at what they do.

How do you give a poo when your team owner doesnt give a poo about getting a real QB room, your GM doesnt give a poo about your QB room, your coach is rah rah feel good aww shucks you fellas sure tried hard.

Benching Bryce for a PS QB that we cut last week will probably make Tepper smash the picture of Brady sitting on his desk.

He tried to smash a square peg into a round hole and all it left us was splinters

I think it also has to be factored in how much else has been spent to support him. It's not just the picks to get him, but an obscene amount just to try and build an offense to see if he's even serviceable as a starter. We've spent 3 years worth of picks and resources for results that would have been cut in training camp if he hadn't been an overall number 1.

Council is convening at 1:30 today. Follow up presser at 3pm followed by team BBQ at 4.

Funny that it's a play he has to extend and make a highlight one handed catch as proof he'snot doing enough. Should he have laid out for it? Yeah. But the one thing we don't see is him, or any other receiver for that matter, having balls consistently hit them in the hands in stride where they have a chance to catch and run. It's always some weird acrobatic grab or an immediate hit as soon as they snag it.

After this week do they bring back Mike White? Who cares about who we have to cut at this point. Our offense couldn't beat last years defense right now with the way Bryce is playing.

Maybe we need to convene the leadership council.

Probably could insert 10 or 15 different names we could have picked up this offseason and still say the same thing.

So here's my thing. Either the QB room was his call in which case, I don't trust him to pick toilet paper for a campground bathroom, or Tepper didn't step back and is indeed dictating the moves of this organization like many of us have been saying all along. I don't think he's stepped back at all and has doubled and even tripled down on proving his decision to draft Bryce was the correct one. My suspicion is even if Bryce is not extended or his 5th year signed, Tepper will once again mortgage the farm to trade up and prove his superiority again and draft his guy. And if what I suspect is correct, and a lowly fan like myself sees it, anyone with any actual football experience is going to see it too and stay the hell away from this franchise. I don't know why Roger Goodell and the rest of the owners punished the fans by selling the franchise to Tepper. Wasn't Super Bowl 50 and watching Cam get speared over and over to the head a big enough fug you?

I know people are out on Bryce and questioning Canales, but where is the angst towards Morgan? This is his fault. Improving the QB room is his job and the best we could do was Bryce Young and a 2 year deal for the ghost of Andy Dalton's arm. Everyone is praising his draft and FA but it's another year wasted full of disappointment by what a few of us predicted. I don't care how good the rest of his drafting skills are, if this is what he considers to be an NFL starting caliber QB and a backup caliber QB with no need to even try for improvement, we need another GM immediately.

He can't reach it?

This is David Tepper. And if Dan Morgan ever wants to have another job after he's fired in Carolina he's going to have to say it, NDA or not.

He'd have to be on the team first.

We'd end up with net better field position. Maybe.